Framasoft, the devs of PeerTube and other projects, are doing an AMA over on !opensource@lemmy.ml - check it out!

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I sent a PM regarding this. Hopefully they'll respond and cross post the AMA post to other communities.

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Hi!

Thanks for noticing us for the concerns about lemmy.ml.

Unfortunately, it's a bit late to cross-post it now (We didn't ask to these specific communities for the AMA and we would need to check different links, I guess).

There are still a lot of Mastodon servers federated with Lemmy.ml so that can be a way to reach this AMA anyway.

We'll think about lemmy.ml concerns for the next time!

Thanks again!

Well. I guess y'all have to wait for another AMA.

If people want a change, they can make !opensource@programming.dev the most active community so that next time it becomes the de facto community

I wish there was Lemmy gold for these kinds of comments, so uh take this cookie instead: 🍪

Well I blocked lemmy.ml, so no AMA for me :S

You can just unblock it temporarily.

Or connect from an account in another instance (or directly from an account in .ml).

That is true, but I don't want to interact with the instance in any way.

Why? There are awesome communities there. Also Firefox, but they've long since fallen below "awesome".

I know, especially open source communities! But I am a political person, and instance moderators heavily defending authoritarian countries such as North Korea and Russia is a hard no go for me. So instead I try to engage in alternative communities on other instances, even if they are very small or sadly do not exist at all.

Would you be okay with a US instance then, for example? They have couped, bombed or invaded only 48 countries so far (including mine). Or perhaps an European instance! They invaded both Africa and America and particioned them nicely as well as exercised a bit of genocide, as a treat.

If the instance is focused around defending and enabling our fascists. Then everyone should object the same. That it just exists in the US isn't the same thing and besides the point.

Of course they would, they're hypocrites

Any chance we could get a normal link too? My client doesn't like the Lemmyverse redirect link

.ml huh? A controversial instance that is defederated from mine, oh well

Lemmy.ml is still the de facto for some topics.

There is !opensource@programming.dev as an alternative, but you can't fault Framasoft for not having enough knowledge of the Lemmy lore to pick that community over the .ml one

Just connect directly from a .ml account or from an instance where .ml is not blocked. That's the beauty of the Fediverse: you can reach someone for the useful stuff they do, not not-reach them because people do not like the neighbourhood where they are established.

I know that I can, I been on the Fediverse for a while, but I would prefer not to interact with it in any way possible

Oh? What instance, or rather, what instance country, would you prefer?

Any instance that is not part of the tankie triad? lemm.ee , lemmy.world, even your's lemmy.sdf.org , I don't mind any of them, and they are not aligned with any specific political ideologies unlike .ml

what instance country

I didn't think about this, but they're a French company, so maybe they could do it on the French instance? But I don't think it matters much

I didn’t think about this, but they’re a French company, so maybe they could do it on the French instance?

...Actually it would make more sense yeah and it would help raise awareness of other issues by the sidelines, given European servers are also being made subject to jerky stuff.

lemmy.ml

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Lemmy.ml is still the de facto for some topics.

There is !opensource@programming.dev as an alternative, but you can't fault Framasoft for not having enough knowledge of the Lemmy lore to pick that community over the .ml one

I hope this doesn't mean that the PeerTube devs are tankies too

Why slurs like that are accepted? People have the right to like communism principles. It doesn"t mean every one who support that support autoritarian regime. Communism ideology is stateless

Lol you must be new around here. The .ml people are certified tankies.

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Ah, yes yes that old chestnut. Everyone else is the problem not you. People have legitimate problems with your instance and its administrators. Don't pretend for a moment that if server focused on a different authoritarian ideology opposed to yours was the host. That you wouldn't object either, despite the hypocrisy. You're on Lemmy.ml not Lemmy.org. At least the rest of us can be consistent in our stance.

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I am fucking impressed. Even something as neutral as an announcement of an AMA hosted by a small group of FOSS developers on the flagship instance of the third most popular fedi platform is also overriden by this obsession to turn the fediverse into a turf war.

There is only one side of this massive waste of time of an argument that is obsessed with suppressing differing points of view, and it's not "tankies". There are way too many meta threads where users from 2 or 3 instances act like rabid monkeys slinging shit at everything if so much as someone has casually mentioned Marx in their general direction at some point in history. Even if a thread is not meant to be meta, there is a high % chance that the discussion has devolved into this. Some users really cannot think or discuss anything else. But because they override entire discussions, sometimes blocking them just leaves threads empty (see, for example, the present thread). At this point it's pathetic, and makes me want to stop using Lemmy altogether.

It is also even more frustrating having seen the "lemmy.ml is a tankie instance" campaign be fabricated in real time the exact moment .world defeded grad because, otherwise, how are we going to pretend we are being censored and manipulated by a nebulous communist authority at the point of the 21st century where liberalism has openly turned to fascism across the entire Global North?

Idk, if I were some "red-fash" dictator wannabe making a website, I wouldn't consider it a very good idea to make it open and federated to anyone who wants it no questions asked, and then letting the flagship instance federate with other instances that openly justify US-backed genocides and have included it in their rules that even implying sympathy towards genocided people will get you banned. Oh well, then you will pull some "whatabout" concern trolling involving the Uyghur people that you will literally not mention anywhere else other than to justify this pointless goal.

I'm sorry my comment is not on topic. I don't care particularly about Framasoft other than respecting the work they do. No other comment in this thread, as of the time of writing, is on topic either, as y'all can't stop obsessing about this turf war.

PeerTube is the best work of Miyazaki, truly a pinnacle of the souls-like genre