Please Don’t Be a Lurker!
In the monthly server updates for lemmy.zip/piefed.zip there's a mantra that's repeated every month. I think it's wonderful and can be applied to the Fediverse as a whole.
If you’re new here - WELCOME! I hope you’re enjoying your time here :)
Just one small teeny-tiny request. The greatest gift you can give
the Fediverse(Original: Lemmy.zip and Piefed.zip) isn’t money, praise, or interpretive dance (although we would absolutely accept the last one). Its participation.Upvote the things you like. Start a discussion, debate, or ponder about whether water is wet or merely makes things wet. Make new communities if you don’t see one that fits your oddly specific niche obsession.
(We don’t judge. Well, we try not to judge anyway.)The fediverse naturally ebbs and flows, tides of people come and go. But if you’ve found yourself oddly attached to this strange little corner of the internet? Wonderful. Help it breathe. Help it grow. Help it be just a tiny bit weirder in the best possible way.
So if you’ve gone to the effort of clicking Sign Up and proving you’re not a robot (unless you are, in which case hello and welcome to our new AI overlords), then please, I beg of you:
Stick around. Add your voice. It really does make this place better.
Reporting for duty
There's like 5 people that are firehoses of content that are keeping lemmy alive.
Nah ! They are at least 8.
Yeah they're doing a huge service to the Fediverse. I've had a few times where I saw posts from the same people across totally different communities to the point where I'm wondering if they're actually interested in all these subjects or just posting for the sake of it.
After a while, it doesn't even matter. It creates a sense of community, making this place nice for new people to join. So it's good.
I see a lot of the same people, recognize the names. I argue with some, know I'll agree with others. I like it. It harkens back to old forum days for me. Reddit may as well be anonymous1 talking to anonymous2, maybe outside of some more niche subs, but here, I can comment on a post about corn and recognize a few of the names who are also commenting.
I certainly can become a problem. Reaching back to Digg, MrBabyMan had way too much power and influence, even though he basically just spammed news articles 24/7. Thankfully, the threadiverse doesn't seem to be designed to promote people over content.
Is it this post you're referring to? NSFW
Yes, it is nice to see that if you post or comment on a community at least a personn will answer you. This is enough to convince the least lurkers of us, the first step for an active community.
I don't know how those people do it. Putting out stuff every day for one community keeps me as busy as I'd want to be.
where do you even get the content from?
I get most of my stuff from Facebook. Since most of you refuse to go there, it really keeps my content fresh 😁
More seriously, since most of my stuff is from non-profits and photographers, it's still the number one place these people share their stuff since it's free, easy, and has a built in wide audience.
Other than that, I look for owls in the Google news page once a week, I look up old research papers or read books, I volunteered at a rehab clinic to learn more and get photos and stories, and I go to events and talk with people that work with owls.
I think the most important thing is that I'm genuinely interested in the subject, so even if social media vanished tomorrow, I would've stop doing anything I do to source content, I just wouldn't be posting. I just post because I think you guys will like it and hopefully donate or volunteer yourselves.
Interesting. I find flooding Lemmy with 0-comment posts rather a disservice to it instead. I come here for the discussion, not for random links to articles.
Of course that's not what the end state should be but while Lemmy is still growing it's better to have something to work off than to wait around for good discussions to just appear.
Beehaw thinks I should post less though.
Never stop Sunshine
keep going
Beehaw still exists? Didn't they want to leave Lemmy, like 2 years ago?
They have an instance that doesnt federate with Lemmy.world i think. It works well for them. On my instance I see them sometimes since we federate with everyone.
How come?
They instanced banned me for 3 days for posting frequently outside their jurisdiction.
Kind of weird but suit themselves I guess
Don't take it too personaly. In the absence of complex filtering tools instance and community admin have to improvise to keep with their wished éditorial ligne.
I make it a point to post a few articles every day.
Not a firehose, but I'm doing my part.
Well, 4 after FlyingSquid left.
What I've learned is that when you emigrate to the UK, you stop posting on lemmy!
He needs to get his Lemmy Loicence. I should have given him mine.
Didn't even know that. Thank fuck he left
That would explain all the shitposts and memes. 😛
I would say it's more 500 than 5
I genuinely worry about Picard Maneuver and Lady Butterfly. What of one of them got hit by a car!?
Picard Maneuver went and came back. I appreciate their work though, they're one of the pillars.
I worry about Stamets.
I'm not a big fan of those absolute firehoses though. It would be impossible to read as much as they post, and therefore they can't have much invested or interest in the subjects which is bad for discussion and reminds me of the reasons for disliking AI slop.
I'm the dribble of drool from a baby's mouth every so often.
What if they're bots and we've all been fooled?
Probably bots.
I try, mostly through comments and votes.
Comments might actually be the most valuable thing right now, even moreso than posts
I sometimes post questions that get a few answers, but recently those people have been ignoring my follow up questions which is quite annoying, is engagement getting so low that people don't care to reply anymore?
IDK, I feel like I usually get more replies here than on Reddit
Same. I am too lazy to write full posts. Sometimes I do but i like up/down voting and writing short comments more.
But I was born a lurker :(
My instinct is to lurk even in this thread...
Do you want to talk about it?
Not really. I physically don't have the energy. Can't speak for the person above, but most of the time, I just can't interact here without having to take a break. Like. Lay down and close my eyes break. (I'm okay now, if you couldn't tell.)
To others, I'm chronically ill, but not being able to interact here doesn't make you less valid. Lurking is fine too. This post is a call to arms but if you can't answer it don't. Your health comes first.
Upvoting and downvoting is appreciated if you have the energy for that, but don't feel pressured.
Don't tell me how to live my life.
Nice post, and thanks. I usually only comment and vote but have not created posts yet. That is my goal for 2026, to post at least one thing. I'm scared of the potential hateful insults I would get for posting something but I can be a dick sometimes, so I get it.
I've found that near every post I've made only has nice comments. Unless it is political lol, but thats par for the course. I believe in you!
Thanks!
Yeah, unless you’re making a discussion about human rights, or you have the most brain-dead opinion to ever disgrace this earth, people are pretty damn nice here
If you commit to making a post, I commit to being nice to you and not being a jerk.I try not to be like that in general and appreciate people's willingness to contribute.
Start by posting a pic of a pet. You'll get upvoted and will get over your fear. If people do downvote or complain, just let it roll off and try again.
It one downvote your pet, tell me. I'll have a "chat" with them.
I fear only one thing. That I will be too bland/boring or what I deem in any way interesting won't be. Or that it will be and I'd get overwhelmed with amount of comments and wouldn't be able to reply to even third of them and would come off as a dick or a bot :< That and I am well aware I am not compatible with most of lemmy so yeah.
This is the main resistance I see. I thought I'd be boring in the beginning. I didn't know much about the subject I began to post about. But from continuing to interact, I learned more about the subject, and I learned what the people I was talking to liked more or liked less.
If you're just being yourself and talking about things you're interested in, you're gonna be fine. People here are pretty chill, so if you're not spouting outright lies or antagonizing people, there isn't anything to worry about.
I post a lot and don't usually get hateful insults, in fact most of what I post gets no comments at all.
The way I find most things I post is literally just that I repost them from my Mastodon feed.
I never posted nor commented in reddit, here I try to overcome the social anxiety
I upvote a lot, but I don't always comment as much as I should. I often find that I may or may not have anything particularly new to add to the comments.
Don't worry about it, in places like Instagram and YouTube - even twitter and R*ddit - people are leaving comments like "bro said [thing previous commenter said]"
And that's fine! Let's be social and authentic and just happy that there aren't bots pretending to be people here
Yeah honestly there's no point adding meaningless chatter either. I like the comment sections here because it feels like people have let their words settle in their minds before they started mashing the keyboard.
I like peas and mashed potatos.
What that random idiot said
I think I'm still a little concerned about account security especially in these scary US fascist times. Trying to take the safest course of action but I am still burnt over by reddit and its hard to wipe your accounts there too now...
I appreciate your concern for the quality of your contributions, and I think this place has a higher proportion of that type of user than just about any other platform.
This place is small and it's generally friendly and inclusive. Most comments won't get any replies, but the ones that do will generally be constructive. The users here are into the whole idea of the social contract and that we can have something nice if we are just excellent to one another.
I repeatedly say "generally" because this is an open platform and assholes are allowed to join. The assholes can even have their own instance dedicated to asshole topics! But fortunately the instances and communities are generally moderated by actual decent humans who are much like the users!
So let that knowledge help you comment more, not less! Even if you get no comments and like 5 upvotes, it actually feels like something of value even if it's just a nod from a few decent people.
Edit: part of the conclusion was supposed to be that you can consider comments more like a discussion with people and not some strict message board.
Nobody's kicked me off yet, you'll be fine
A'ight you won, gotta say something for today. But i hardly understand how people do manage to be social enough to post almost every day, like, they manage to make everything interesting.
It usually takes me 30-40 minutes to find the strengh to post something. How others will react to it, or is it even meaningful to post it, I find myself facing theses questions as much irl as online.
Anyways, it truly is a very nice place here, I agree with you, thanks to thoses amazing posters who never get out of inspiration. Thank you all.
"It usually takes me 30-40 minutes to find the strengh to post something. How others will react to it, or is it even meaningful to post it, I find myself facing theses questions as much irl as online."
Just remember everybody is anonymous and the votes don't really matter!
Also I can guarantee you that no one else will scrutinize what you say as much as you do. Mostly they will not even remember!
This is not a personal account, it's one for a site I'm building. I know many won't like that as it might come as spammy, corporate or whatever, but I have decided to use Lemmy as a place for discussion -in a related community- and Mastodon as the one for news and updates (together with old good RSS) and I have done it because I believe in a federated web.
I'm tired of walled gardens and billionaire-run feuds -and every web loading endless MBs of scripts from a dozen of third-parties (I mean, sometimes it can be justified, like on very complex sites... but not on a damn text blog, come on!)- or not working with my OS/browser of choice... and I want the Fediverse to keep growing and become not only a viable alternative but -and here I'm just daydreaming, I know- the default.
And to this point this post made me realize that it won't happen on its own -not the way most people are, anyway- and that we/I need to put more effort on it. I'm culprit of just signing up and... well, waiting. And that won't work. So thank you from bringing this matter to me, and I'll try to do my part from now on, if not with this account with a personal one.
Sometimes I debate on making a comment, and sometimes I simply don't have the energy to complete one. But sometimes, I think, "every comment grows Lemmy a little bit more" and decide, fuck it, I'll say something. People might like it, people might not like it, but you never know what can grow from such a little spark.
I appreciate Lemmy in this regard. We live in a world with many voices trying to drown out each other for a bit of public attention. It's enough to make some people think their own thoughts aren't worthy and to stay silent, discounting their potential contributions. Having a platform that's low-stakes, where people aren't chasing internet fame, gives many of us an opportunity to express ourselves for the sake of expressing ourselves. Having this outlet is vital for many of us. I'm glad to be a part of this community, and it is truly a community. I have no idea if anyone recognizes me, but I definitely recognize other frequent commenters. It's almost like we're neighbors, not in physical proximity, but with a shared gathering space to meet and share our thoughts.
And I love that.
Aw what a nice sentiment 🥰 it has inspired my first reply here
can confirm, this user has 0 posts and 1 comment
Can confirm that Gandalf did not lie and the user in question does indeed have 0 posts and 1 comment
I can third this, OP indeed has one comment.
There are days where ei literally don't even have time to read anything, let alone posting.
But I'm not a lurker.
And I appreciate your content, I still remember your hyprland setup tipping me over the edge to finally go down the window manager rabbit hole 😂
I've never been one to post much on any social media platform but on Lemmy I try to make it up by upvoting things I want to see on the platform and commenting to get discussions going.
There is not risk of messing up your algorithm. You should upvote almost anything you don't want to downvote!
I enjoy Lemmy because I tend to get a response. Despite the higher pop at Reddit, I often go ignored. It’s not unusual to have a back and forth chat with another commenter in a given thread here.
I find it hard to keep a conversation going, maybe lack of skill on my part but usually idk what to reply and hit a dead end. So most of the time I just upvote in appreciation for taking the time to respond.
If you don't know what to reply, then don't. Seek out communities, posts, and comments about stuff you enjoy talking about. Especially when it's a positive light.
This is a good insight; sometimes I feel like I have to know stuff to make a meaningful contribution, when maybe just cheering on can be enough.
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I mean, perhaps if you're lost for content you could just give the back story to your username?
Ooh that’s an easy one, it’s from this comment, credits to OP.
I’ve seen variations of it around here in other comments too, but this was the first one I saw and it cracked me up, so I took it. I’m some bigot’s worst nightmare
And backed it up with a class thumbnail, nice haha.
I had added it as pfp but then read someone saying smth about how "bad" handmade art is better, I liked the idea to try and make a silly drawing myself, then never got around to it.
Conversations either continue or they don’t. You shouldn’t be hard on yourself. If someone says something that makes you want to say or ask something else, great. If not, that’s fine too.
Thank you, it's easy to see it when it happens to me but if I'm the one leaving things hanging I feel like either a missed opportunity or that I'm somewhat being rude (I'm not, and most likely the other party didn't think nothing of it. I'm working on my sometimes distorted inner narrative).
How dare you invite me to participate!
90% of the Internet is made up of lurking.
I feel seen.
I feel attacked... i like to lurk. except now i'm not lurking, because i feel guilty for lurking. damit.
This was in reference to people that feel like they should contribute to the fediverse.
But heck, even just upvoting things helps.
One valuable way to grow Lemmy: pick a feed that interests you, even if it's got almost no traffic, and just start posting on it.
Whether you source your posts from equivalent subreddits, or other social media, or from relevant articles you come across in the news, you can - through 10-15 minutes per day of direct action - quickly create a valuable feed for others.
Much like how the best way to grow an in-person gathering is to commit to just keep showing up for a while, even if it's only you. It works in the fediverse too.
Nobody really cares what I have to say.
The amount of upvotes you get on your posts says something different
It's the internet, if you have something worth saying say it, someone will find it useful in the future.
That's what I just did.
Gotta agree with /u/Spaniard here, they raised some really great points.
Can’t comment, lurking.
Keyboard issues?
My "J" key and my "-" key have not been working for like two years and I am too lazy to do anything about that even though it irritates me badly.
Same, too busy upvoting and moving on as usual...
I'm still just figuring out how fediverse / lemmy work, but I do get bored sometimes because of the lack of content, so I guess I'm part of the problem. I'll try to be more involved.
I've been trying to think of a good (for the lack of knowing the correct verbiage) 'subreddit' to start, but they all seem too specific for the amount of users on Lemmy. Also I wouldn't know how to start one. Comment down below any tips. Thanks!
I started posting by picking the communuty for the place i live and trying to post local and independent media and special interest groups articles about/in the context of that place.
Its benefits are,
If you look through my history you'll see my posts to c/Perth/WesternAustralia there are ebbs and flows in interest but the key point is when something happens, say a protest, or a pub banning some nazis the community is there ready for the users, active and established.
If you go to the sidebar of that community, and all the communities i moderate i have gathered in each a host of resources for people to refer to for articles and information in regards each of those communities. It also helps me to have easy access to those publishers as i look for something i find interesting.
So i don't know what city or State you live in, but if theres a place based server, or a generalist server that hosts a community for it, i'd start posting there. If it looks abandoned maybe jump onto that servers c/meta and request to become the moderator. That'll give you the ability to change things like the sidebar and participate in managing misbehaviour if/when users post things off topic/against the rules for the community.
See you in fediverse ;)
Edit: oh, also posting is a piece of active fun, instead of waiting passivley for something to entertain you. So its fun in a different way to scrolling feeds, or commenting.
Sorting by scaled is pretty nice because its like active but with community size so its not only shitposts, memes and news (still a lot but its still a larger veriety)
You don't have to start your own community (lemmy's subreddit) if you feel it is too niche. Find or start a broder one where your niche content will fit. That way, your content has a home and more lemming will be attracted to it.
If you want to start your own community, you can only do it on your home instance: reddthat.com
The sorting combination of 'Local' and 'Active' also can make for a quiet impression
1,800 comments and counting! One of them might even be valuable to the conversation.
Definitely a better ratio than me, that's for sure.
uh i guess i'll post a minecraft build somewhere on lemmy tomorrow if i remember to
Why not do it meow?
I love the goal this port is trying to achieve, and I try not to be negative about content. But lately I’ve seen the kind of gate keeping that is souring people on that other site.
I’ve had 2 fairly recent examples of it. In one case, the community pushed back on the poster for being an ass. They repeatedly doubled down, and were repeatedly called out for it. It was good to see.
The second was a mod applying a definition to a community that doesn’t exist in its stated rules. I haven’t finished with that one yet, but depending on how my response plays out, I’ll be done with that community, and I’ll just go back to that other site. The particular community is excellent both here and in R-world, so I won’t miss much by saying goodbye to it on Lemmy. I’ll be sad, though.
Can you not recreate that same community on a different instance with the rules that you want?
Yeah you can, and if the community you made is better it will overshadow the worst
And even if it won't, there's still the benefit of some variety in communities so that people can choose.
I could, but the community is pretty good for the most part. I’ve only had the one issue with the mod, and I plan on starting a conversation post to try and have the community weigh in on what they think the rules should be going forward.
What is R-World?
Sorry, was trying, and failing, to be clever. Was referring to Reddit.
"Real world"
🌽
I see a new post.
I click, I read, I scroll on.
I am the lurker.
#haiku (<- test to see how far this propagates in the mastodon / microblogging part of the fediverse)
It doesn't work well if it is not in the post itself. Here a community where you are free to test it as much as you want !testfediverse@jlai.lu
Great posts from .Zip admins as usual
For people interested in growing communities, there is !fedigrow@lemmy.zip
Do we really need more petty debates? 😅
Yes we do, prove me wrong!
I don't know about this one specifically 😅 but people probably have the need for these debates anyway, so it's just better to express them (*on the Fediveree*)! 😁
It's like, how in some movies and shows people have "meaningless" discussions in a bar about random trivia etc; if people don't behave in a toxic way, it's just a way to connect and share ideas!
And in some (most?) cases, the discussion might be more important than the result of it, since you see in practice more about how people can approach this type of curiosity about a subject, which might apply to many other topics we think about every day 😁
More importantly though, where am I supposed to go to debate if water is wet, if not to the Fediverse? 😄
I find that people on the internet are largely incapable of level-headed discussions.
Eh, it's not like they are going to somehow get better at it without practice...
Thanks for letting us know and giving a lil push!
I comment. Reminds me of how I'd end up playing medic in tfc/tf2- someone has to do it.
I don't post original stuff often, though.
Well I agree. I post on lemmy or mastodon-like first, then only after on Reddit if I must. Many times I get a few but meaningful replies, that’s good.
i've always found mastodon unintuitive, mostly because older versions used to not have a "local" feed, only a global feed,
and i think a charm of the fediverse is to have local instances, like for specific topics. and they added that local feed recently, which i like
The problem with contributing is that most of my Lemmy browsing is done while I'm on the can, and phone keyboards suck.
better on the can than on the can't
Watch out for pinkeye!
u know what? maybe we should start actively advertising the fediverse in local hacker clubs and such.
Sooo is water wet, or it just makes things wet?
Wetness is an illusion. An artificial category imposed on what we call reality by our minds. Which are also illusory. Everything is an illusion. It's all as meaningful and purposeful as the patterns dust makes in a whirlwind. That's all we are- dust in the wind. Everything is dust in the wind.
Water is wet. When it gets on things, it makes them wet until the water is gone. When the water is gone, the wetness is gone. The water was the wetness.
🌎🧑🚀🔫👨🚀
A singular water molecule is not wet, but add any more and now each molecule has water sticking to it so it's wet
It makes itself (the molecules) wet I guess...so it is wet uwu
It's without a doubt wet, right? Even if one claims it just makes other things wet, then surely it makes itself wet too?
Not only that, but also creating new communities too!
I had an idea, but solarpunk covers most of what I want to do.
Go ahead with your idea anyway
o7
It shall be done, friends
I’m doing my part!
I just realized something: When I search for something in Lemmy and get zero results, I sometimes go to Reddit and search there.
It would probably be better to make a new post in Lemmy about the thing I'm searching for. It would add content to Lemmy, and the content would be newer and fresher than the Reddit results that are sometimes 10+ years old.
Also, I hope we can all make a concerted effort to be nicer to each other. It's the internet so that's not always easy but I do think that's one of the things holding us back.
I think on the whole, we do a little better at this than other platforms. Does depend on the subject, but I see more positive, respectful interactions here than I do elsewhere.
Always a good reminder though!
Honestly that hasn't been my experience but either way there's always room for improvement.
You're not the boss of me!!!
No, but I am. Your lunch break ended five minutes ago. Get back to memeing. Chop chop!
Curses! Foiled again!
Hello everyone!
No u
Now I won't be posting! Hah!... oh wait...
Gotcha!
I second that!
I'm out here trying to get a group going all by myself 😅 I'd be super grateful if someone broke the ice
https://lemmy.world/c/IndepthIndie
Looks like you've got a good community going there. Not sure i have much to contribute, but we do have some crossover with the associated communities.
I often upvite posts. I try to make an effort to leave comment now and then. I rarely find anything to make a post about tho.
Maybe you find something for https://lemmy.world/c/Dullsters@dullsters.net :p (i forgot how to properly link communities...)
!Dullsters@dullsters.net
Subscribed! Thanks :)
I'd like to suggest removing timestamps on all comments, like you could still toggle a button to see the timestamp of a comment if you wanted to, but the timestamp shown on default doesn't serve any purpose other than tell the users how fresh or how stale the conversation is. When the conversation is say only a few hours old, many users will choose not to engage because we assume the conversation is over and there isn't any point in engaging further, so we skip altogether and move on. I can tell from my own experience I've done this more than a few times, I'm sure others have as well. When you only have a few thousand users across the world, unlike Reddit, we must preserve the freshness of the few conversations we do have so as to increase engagement from all.
You are on PieFed, so you can always use a bit of custom css to make them go away. Pop this snippet into the custom css field of your user settings:
On the other side I don't want to engage in discussions that are over. The Threadiverse is organized in a wayz where new content is favored in your feed. Of course there are discussions that stretch over a couple of days, but after, they die. And I think this is just the way it works, it is not meant to show all posts ever made in an equal way.
With the "active" sort, I regularly get posts on top of my feed that were originally made days or weeks ago, but still have discussions going on in the comments. I dont think thats a negative thing at all.
Right, they are not meant to show posts in equal manner - freshness & hotness do matter in engagement and are indeed shown higher compared to other posts and comments. But still, a few posts from last night might have only a couple of comments, but since it's already a few hours old, we don't reply or engage with it. We judge engagement by these timestamps and so removing timestamps will lift engagement on all posts & comments.
I guess this also has to do with user amount in general. The more users are active in the Threadiverse, the more users would engage with these posts.
This is an interesting idea, or maybe we just need people to be more willing to comment in old posts. Reddit is actively hostile to old posts, but they should work fine in Lemmy/PieFed since we have sort options like Active and New Comments. On old forums people used to continue talking in old posts forever, we could do that here no problem, the software supports it.
Sometimes I feel like I talk too much. So I do limit myself.
Ok fine
Hi. How's your day/evening been? Learn anything new today?
Been great, Thanks!
I've been posting more often lately. I'm doing my part, soldier!
I tend to forget I actually have an account even though I follow my subscribed page. I have been only reading the internet for too many years.
Water makes my eyes wet
Your bones are wet right now. 😂
Trying to do my part. So happy to have this site.
OK I guess this is my time to say hi!
So, hi!
I created a community for my erotic fiction on the lemmynsfw site. This is the link:
https://lemmynsfw.com/c/DominatingChloe
I would love to hear your thoughts if you are into such things.
Bruh, who starts a conversation like that? I just sat down, Sarah.
Participation awards are given out here, this is just that kind of degenerate place where that kind of stuff happens. I have seen the underground storehouses filled with participation trophies made of solid platinum and gold under some of the larger instances, it is staggering. We are the deplorably thanked for participating, witness us in our moral decay.
Lurking is so much easier though!
Eh, I like being a hydralisk anyway.
How to comment when I just can't relate to things, people from my country are not on this platform so there are less relatable things here
They might be more common than you think!
Lemmy/PieFed isn't all US and EU. People from all kinds of places can be found here.
Find your community.
I am sure you like stuff that people from EU and US like.
This post seems to work well, given that it has remained in the active tab for days now with the sheer people commenting on it.
All decent advice. Here's a thought experiment.
By the same token it would be bad to stop such a discussion, right? Right.
Therefore it would be bad to *destroy" such communities, right? Indeed.
So, it would be bad to downvote the things you - personally, subjectively - don't like - right? It wouldn't? Why so?
Don't downvote other people's good-faith opinions. It's petty, it's juvenile, it's toxic. Even if you don't see it that way. It's precisely what will discourage the participation we all want to see.
Because the fediverse is still fairly small, downvotes stick out a lot more. A number of them I think, "How could anybody downvote that?" and just wonder because often they seem to be "I had a shitty day and I particularly don't like YOU" downvotes.
I often sort a thread by Top, and even the highest voted posts are often +(big number) -1. Because I personally do not downvote without cause, I assume they are sincere, but then it becomes a question of why, and I could never figure it out. Okay, whatever, no biggie.
But recently I had some time on my hands and I am aware of lemvotes.org, so one day I saw this again and decided to just informally start looking up these weird ass loner downvotes. Nothing sustained, just whenever one stuck out to me as being why??? I'd go and look it up. I've been doing this for roughly 2-3 months now, no schedule or commitment other than whenever I felt like it, across the board, no attention paid to community or post content (other than anything political pretty much not being worth the trouble, lol).
What I expected was a variety of usernames attached to these single downvotes.
But what I saw was a core handful of users across the board, with the occasional outlier.
Kinda pathetic, honestly.
So you're saying that (you think the data says) most people here are not blanket-downvoting anything that gives them marginally bad vibes, and that the damage is being done by a busy few? Interesting if true. I too basically never downvote, on the principle that it's toxic and hostile and just not something that has a polite equivalent in person. I had assumed I was a massive outlier.
I think blanket downvoting happens regularly in political communities and discussions, and a lot of time you can see it without even looking up any votes: if every single comment in a six-comment thread has two downvotes and three upvotes, it's pretty clear. I looked those political ones up a few times but don't even bother anymore. Everywhere else, by which I mean non-political and/or non-controversial topics, it genuinely seems to be just a core handful of users.
And no, you're not an outlier, just a decent person. I like to think most of us vote for actual cause, and that it's only a handful who don't. But at some point I do think the admins are going to have to deal with it, because downvoting just to downvote IS toxic and does tend to have a stifling effect on the discussion and community as a whole.
Interesting. Could you also see a reason for why they downvoted? Do they downvote a specific type of content or do they downvote just about everything?
These single downvotes were never followed up by further commentary, and at least one of them looks like a voting-only account with zero posts, so the more I looked the more they just seemed like fuck you votes.
I really don't think there's any link to content at all because I did this across multiple communities (whatever I don't have actively blocked that crosses my feed) and it was largely the same handful of downvoters throughout, but with outliers here and there. I wasn't taking notes, but when I started to see the same names over and over in wildly disparate communities it seemed less and less likely it had anything to do with content.
I definitely started commenting more because of this post thanks
You cannot fault people for following rule 33.
Can I fault them for following rule 34? ...please?
I post
One of the major things I like about lemmy is that it allows text alongside links/images - I think it's good when OPs use this as a jumping point to start conversation as well.
I fucking hate the Reddit-ish replies I receive so I will not comment often
No need to call me out considering that's what i do most of the time 😅
fuck i'll lurk and smoke all day