FOSSDLE PieFedWhich Firefox alternative do you guys recommend?
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I recently saw this news on the technology community https://lemmy.world/post/44224445 and got very disappointed with the way things are going with this browser.
I started using it to do my part against the chromium monopoly, but Mozilla is making too many bad decisions in my opinion.
I've heard about forks like Librewolf and Waterfox.
Which alternatives would you recommend? Do you use any of them? What are your thoughts on them?
LibreWolf.
It works 😬
Guys, instead of a popularity contest, it'd be more productive if we listed the reasons for choosing one or another.
I like that idea, it provides information and gives you something to research as well. IDK shit about shit though so I'm going to keep my mouth shut lol.
LibreWolf
I like waterfox. I felt librewolf was a little too paranoid with its security permissions for convenient use and waterfox strikes a good balance in my opinion between what firefox is doing and what librewolf is doing.
Desktop - Librewolf
Android - Ironfox
I use librewolf
Librewolf.
Waterfox is a great all-around platform for desktop and mobile.
Desktop: librewolf. I've not found anything remotely comparable for Android.
I just use Fennec on android
What do you feel about IronFox?
Sorry I deleted my post because I was mistaken. I haven't tried it.
Worth a shot, recommended by several in the comments here as well.
I've been using Waterfox. I've been meaning to look into Zen again.
I've been using Zen lately. It's good, but it's also pretty different. It takes some getting used to. I like it because the interface is minimal and out of the way. It keeps your browser mostly just showing the content on the web page, instead of wasting space with the taskbar that's only needed occasionally. It's still all available, just hidden away until needed.
Zen Browser, Firefox under the hood but soooo many incredibly nice features
Firefox has a no ai toggle, you could just use that
Yes yes, trust the AI peddlers to keep their promises, that's always went well.
/Sarcasm
A lot of people saying Fennec is good on Android. The line at the bottom is a bit of a turn off, isn't it?
Most Firefox forks still have support for Mozilla account sync and the extension malware blacklist, as those are useful features to have. But they do share info with Mozilla.
I believe that Tor browser and Mullvad browser do not phone home to Mozilla.
That's my conclusion after using OpenSnitch for some time.
Firefox and LibreWolf do phone home Mozilla at startup.
Use IronFox (forked from DivestOS Mull Browser) if you want a private FOSS firefox-based browser on Android. Note that it still lacks per-site isolation like every other FF based browser on Android, but this seems to be the most harden option available.
LibreWolf my beloved browser
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I've been using Waterfox for a year or so, after I got tired of the broken update process for Librewolf on MacOS. No regrets.
At the moment I just stick with firefox, as long as I can disable all the ai and telemetry bs. However in a few years Ladybird could be an alternative. They're developing a whole new browser including the engine from scratch. Looks promising to me.
https://ladybird.org/
If you can ignore the creator's problematic views https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity/
there's always been a strong undercurrent of tech "libertarians" who refuse to understand that their "neutrality" is in service to fascists and pointing this fact out loud makes you the problem.
Kling is more directly fash https://mastodon.social/@alatiera/115272605624599561
men like kling were one of the reasons why i stopped being a software engineer; they're so incredibly common in the field and so highly rewarded by it that it's clear that the field's leaders are aligned with them.
it makes me wonder what i'll be doing once firefox is no longer a thing.
A browser fork is generally less secure, because they're slower to get security updates. Firefox gives you the option to remove all the AI and that's a better approach.
Alternatively you could switch to Firefox ESR, which is basically just better in every way.
I use Zen on desktop, Fennec on Android.
I also tried Librewolf/ Ironfox combo.
Librewolf, Librewolf all the way. It's a bit heavy-duty with the privacy, but that can be toned down in settings.
Ironfox on mobile.
On Linux, I use Waterfox. On Android, I use Fennec. Both much lighter than Firefox, and Waterfox specifically doesn't need to be installed on Linux (my biggest concern in Linux - most is installed to the system), and the dev seems to be slowly separating Waterfox from the Firefox base, instead of keeping it as a stripped down Firefox. On the privacy side of things, not knowledgeable enough myself to audit them, but haven't seen any scandals on either yet.
I just switched to Librewolf from Firefox, would you recommend moving to Waterfox instead ?
Haven't tested LibreWolf so can't compare them
Librewolf for Linux Desktop and Fennec for AOSP
On desktop, I use the Mullvad Browser and I'm pretty comfortable with it, as it's at least on par with Librewolf (which is pretty good), privacy-wise, I think. On mobile, I use IronFox through the Accrescent store, and I used to use a hardened version of Fennec, as well.
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To close IronFox and all of your open pages, open the menu and press "Quit IronFox"
Waterfox on Mobile has been working well for me so far.
I've been using Floorp for the past 6 months. No complaints.
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/
seamonkey but it's not compatible with a lot of websites these days sadly. hopefully they'll catch up soon.
It's running Goanna. Any issues should be brought up either on their forum, the UXP forum, or the Pale Moon forum.
I don't believe that is the case. I believe they have their own fork of Gecko that they maintain here.
seamonkey is not related to palemoon's uxp/goanna stuff
Kinda depends on your preference. A lot of people are proponents for librewolf, but it hasn’t been great for me in the past. Privacy is probably top notch, but I have zen browser a try and I’m not hating it. Could also be a move for you.
lynx in the terminal or eww on emacs
It all depends on your threat model. Overall, I don't recommend any browser based on the Mozilla engine; unfortunately, Chromium-based versions are way ahead when it comes to security. A good option for PC use is to isolate browsers using virtual machines, depending on the case
The main security property for any browser is between the chair and desk.