Matrix let-down

submitted by stravanasu edited

I've been trying to use Matrix to replace sites like Discord or Slack. But it seems that if a user creates an invitation-only room in a server, then invited users who are registered on other servers get errors when trying to join. Not very useful error messages either: "Failed to join room". (In my case, I tried creating accounts and rooms at nitro.chat and then at converser.eu, but friends registered at matrix.org don't manage to join).

Quite a let-down. Anyone who's facing the same problem and has maybe managed to solve it?

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Avatar Eldritch

Have you tried wormhole?

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Never heard of it.

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I mean there are dozens of sites like this. I can host my own media on my server and share it with a link. Except the "extra steps" you're referring to are all done automatically on the backend (the submitter just clicks "upload" and selects the file and the recipients just click the play button) and the "extra steps" required here and manual and annoying. In the case of Discord or similar.

Avatar Eldritch

The site isn't hosting the file. Sure you can host your own FTP etc. But there is a lot of security risks and vulnerabilities that arise because of that. You can even host your own Magic wormhole. It's under MIT license. Just have to open the ports Etc. It should however theoretically have a lot less attack surface than HTTP FTP and similar protocols. Nothing is invulnerable of course.

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The site isn't hosting the file.

According to the site, it is:

In addition, we store your encrypted files on our servers for 24 hours so the share link will keep working for your recipient even after you close the Wormhole site.

Not that it matters, because none of that is the problem. Hosting my own media on my own server is much more convenient than p2p transfers and equally secure. The problem is the "extra steps" require to transfer files this way.

Avatar Eldritch , edited

It's simply acting as a connector. And directing traffic around Nat Etc for lay people or those who don't want to bother with setting up and securing server software or such things. Unless of course I'm completing the two and they aren't related. It's possible I suppose. But I've used the app a couple of times. And I don't ever remember having to sit and wait for a file upload. It was instant. Like the file being hashed and info being generated. Then slapping you with a QR code or a string to give to the person you're sending it to Initiate the transfer