FOSSDLE PieFedNo dedicated community/magazine for Fediverse memes?
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Jupiter Rowland
I've noticed that there isn't a single Lemmy community, Mbin magazine etc. for Fediverse memes.
Is that because 99.9% of the Threadiverse came directly from Reddit, almost all Lemmy communities and *bin magazines are outposts of subreddits, and Reddit doesn't meme the Fediverse because hardly anyone on Reddit knows the Fediverse in the first place?
Is it, in addition, because especially Lemmy is too detached from the rest of the Fediverse to know what's memeable and to really understand memes about the Fediverse outside Lemmy?
Or is it simply because Fediverse memes go into other, more general communites/magazines where they simply drown in the flood of other threads?
I mean, I barely see any memes about the Fediverse anywhere on Mastodon. That may be either because your typical Mastodonian is not cut from meme-maker wood, or your typical Mastodonian doesn't know enough about the Fediverse beyond Mastodon, or next to nobody hashtags their meme posts. so they're impossible to find.
And so I thought that this is more common in the Threadiverse, seeing as how meme-happy Reddit is.
I feel like at least half of Lemmy is memes, and a good portion of those are about lemmy and the fediverse.
you're right, they aren't hashtagged.
I guess if you want to centralize them or hashtag fediverse memes specifically, you might want to start a community.
Why don't you start a community?
No time to run and moderate it. I'm not primarily a Lemmy user, I'm mostly on Hubzilla and (streams). It can happen that I'm absent from Lemmy for weeks.
i cant imagine a stream of posts so populous it needs its own community. just tag them correctly and plop them in existent meme channels
I would check out !microblogmemes@lemmy.world
What I meant weren't screenshots from social media that are treated like memes.
I rather meant original memes made in the Fediverse for the Fediverse, lampooning the Fediverse, parts of it or certain aspects of it. Even if they're based on existing templates, no matter how old.
Also, it'd be nice if there was a place where such memes can be posted in the first place.
You missed the beans thing, then.
So did I. What happened?
There were beans, lots of beans.
Just... lots of beans? Don't get me wrong, I love beans, but they don't seem particularly meme-worthy. Any good examples I should look for?
Fediverse memes can be posted anywhere, including in existing memes communities. That's where all the beans and jeans memes are.
Most things on the Fediverse are limited by someone willing to put in the effort to make them happen. Create it, populate it with memes, and it will exist. People will still post to the larger communities though, bc they are more well-known.
Does Reddit have a subreddit for specifically “Reddit-memes”?
Interestingly enough, I was thinking about it earlier today.
There is some potential for memes, especially with the latest dramas/debates on several topics, as well as the on-going feud with Reddit
Would you like to create it? I have a few ideas I could translate into memes
My best creation from a year ago: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/1868051
I've started a new (streams) channel for Fediverse memes, but I thought Lemmy could be another, even better place to post them.
I've already posted two creations of mine there, One does not simply implement FEP-ef61 with very extensive explanations and What if I told you the Fediverse is not only Mastodon? with only one link to explain it. I'm still trying to find the right amount of explanation for an audience that shall be mostly on Mastodon.
Beyond that, I've got loads of ideas. But I don't want to post more of them here than on (streams). So I'll first have to define my way of posting them on (streams) to what will be a largely Mastodon audience in a way that satisfies Mastodon's accessibility requirements the best. I hope to speed up my meme-posting rate then.
At this point you might as well start the community. Stick a post up asking for other Mods to help out.
I don't think it's wise to start a Lemmy community and then ask for other people to moderate it while being absent for weeks myself.
In case you haven't read, I'm not primarily a Lemmy user. I'm mostly on Hubzilla and second-mostly on (streams). It may actually occur that I'm not on Lemmy for multiple weeks in a row.
Also, I don't really want to take care of rules and that stuff.
Interesting, how can I follow/comment on that stream from Lemmy? I tried searching for the link in the search bar but that didn't work
It's basically like a Hubzilla channel which, in turn, is somewhat like a Friendica account. Which, again, is very vagely like a Mastodon account.
To my best knowledge, you can't follow individual accounts outside the Threadiverse on Lemmy.
In addition, (streams) has recently switched to decentralised IDs as per FEP-ef61. This could be the reason why Lemmy can't find my (streams) channels, but it can find my Hubzilla channels: It doesn't understand DIDs.
I see, thanks!
Do you though?
to be fair there isn't that much about the fedi in general that you *can* meme about. the closes you can get are in jokes but:
a) lemmy doesnt have them because this place is uncreative and only serves as a dumping ground from memes from other places when they aren't bickering about politics
b) in jokes of different parts of fedi do not translate well just because they share a protocol, given the extremely little overlap on people here
c) they're not really "fediverse memes" just because they happened in the fediverse, are they
Oh you could absolutely meme about the protocol itself and the way it is implemented. *lots* of potential there.
most people on lemmy do not understand the tradeoffs both activitypub and it's implementors do, as evidenced by this exact community we're in. these memes wouldn't gain any traction even if they were funny to their intended audience (which i have doubts on if it's possible to do but idk i'm not creative enough)
There is still some material
Here's some stuff that I'd meme about:
Granted, I guess almost all of this will fly even over most c/Fediverse users' heads due to how detached Lemmy is from the rest of the Fediverse. But I don't really expect that many more Mastodon users to understand it, and those who do may be offended. Oh well.
Yes I think memes can only arise when your community has enough lore and stories that people love to tell again and again. Eventually this will be the case here too !
I just posted one on !fediverselore@lemmy.ca , reception was mixed ha ha
What's up with the android beef? I hadn't heard about that one 😅
They just coexist and don't want to merge, leading to every article getting posted twice
id argue none of those are fun topics you can joke about but "memes as a form of outrage" (aside from, like, two) which is already a problem (see all the political memes on any of the meme communities for countless examples) we do not need to encourage imo
Let's give it a try
Variation
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Well that is just like... your opinion man. Also i think that utopia looks kinda shit like dubai but with flying taxis.
World made it easy for tons of people to onboard onto lemmy. If there were no instances that made it easy for all the reddit refugees to find a home, it would be a lot emptier here imo. And of course people create communities on their instance.
I think it is a good thing that lemmy.world is huge, in my non programmer mind, it will prepare lemmy better for the next wave of new users, maybe that will be the time to onboard them onto different instances.
Thanks for all the memes though!
Agreed
There are two main issues with centralization on LW: - centralized decisions impacting most of the Lemmy users made by a small group of people (I posted a list of them here, even Rooki a LW admin agreed with me that them being "Reddit 2.0" puts them under a lot of pressure: https://lemmy.world/comment/12070983 ) - federation issues with smaller instances, as LW is so big it cannot keep up with instances which are further away ( https://lemmy.world/post/15634599 , another detailed explanation is available here, where it impacted instances like lemmy.blahaj.zone, lemdro.id, lemmy.nz, reddthat.com and aussie.zone : https://lemmy.world/post/13967373 )
A detailed thread on !fedigrow@lemm.ee that discusses the issue: https://lemmy.world/post/14728407
Agreed, and as I always say, I think they do a quite good job overall. At the same time, it would be better if communities could move away from LW as well, for reasons stated above
Found on !memes@lemmy.ml
Let's try this here before it gets its own post somewhere.
That is, I have a growing suspicion that even here in a community that specialises in the Fediverse, hardly anyone can relate to it, and out in the meme communities, nobody will even understand it.
Ah, that's Mastodon's main dev, right?
Yup.
!fedizens@lemmy.ca has them as a feature (NOT dedicated), but theres no content like that yet
Just a pity that the community is pretty much dead.
did you look at its source instance? it doesnt bring older posts to your instance
Magazine? What decade do you think we're living in my dude?
Communities are called magazines in Mbin. They are called "Groups" in ActivityPub. It's all up to the implementation to call it what it wants.