Terroristic threats allowed on lemmy.ml!?!
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A hexbear user calls for the death of me and all Americans! I reported It to dessalines, but as of posting all hes done was delete my post where I called them out! It seems like death-threats by communists are ok, but calling them silly back is impolite...
So this was on !videos@hexbear.net right?
Then why is Dessalines involved as you are a LW user?
Anyway, you might probably want to report this on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com or !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works rather than here
the post that was deleted was from my lemmy.ml account
Ah, that makes sense.
Lemmy.ml has been known to have a type of administration practices: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
Yeah, Ive known for a while you cant say anything bad about china, now the propagandists have upped their rhetoric to alarming levels!
Do not participate with Hexbear. It and a large portion of their members are nothing but trolls.
Seriously they say the fucking funniest things sometimes tho!
whens the last time you heard something that ridiculous!?!
Obviously we all should go back to the place we were before colonising any land. So back to single cell organisms of the sea. Hexbear and .ml people already have a head start.
lol if I was dessalines youd be banned for being so impoite to those poor innocent hexbears!
Shouting non-credible threats (that, based on the screenshot, I can only assume are ironic in the first place) into the internet void isn't making "terroristic threats". Feeding the trolls and name calling isn't conductive either.
Most of the internet is kids and people with nothing better to do with their lives.
I disagree, heres how the EU defines terroristic threats:
advocating for and glorifying of violence, is considered incitement and is illegal!
EDIT: sorry I put the hexbears quote in a comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/12658620
Do you have a copy of the actual threat? Because "you are a settler" is stupid but not an actual threat.
I don't know where you got that picture from, I can't find the legal definition for a terroristic threat within the EU. The best I could find is:
That's just a convention, though, not direct law. The definition by the convention does require proof of intent, which I haven't found about the cringe hexbear user.
I asked him why I'm a settler and he said plainly that its only because I'm American.
So this incitement is directed at me but also applies to all Americans.
furthermore I tried to confirm in DMs if he really meant death to all americans and you can see his response on the top here:
EDIT: I got that definition from their PDF https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/506de61d-c53f-489f-a9e3-e16e78793e81_en?filename=202104_terrorist-content-online_en.pdf
That screenshot again proves that this person is extremely cringe, presumably a troll, but there's still no threat. At worst that's racism against Americans. Should obviously be removed by moderators from any normal online service that wants to encourage pleasant conversation, but that's not necessarily illegal.
As for the PDF, that's not a legal definition by any kind, it's a quick explainer for a law that only applies to hosting providers receiving complaints from European authorities. So yes, if the Belgian police sent a takedown notice regarding terroristic content then it does apply.
However, that regulation is mere instruction to EU states to draft compliant laws. It's not actionable legislation in itself (similar to the GDPR).
The full text of the Regulation does include this instruction for EU countries, which I haven't seen before:
However, the Regulation also refers to human rights such as freedom of expression. One can be of the opinion that it's better for the USA to stop existing without any plans or support for actual genocide. Someone expressing hate for your country isn't immediately a terrorist.
not really a high bar tbh
yeah, Its really low
Makes it easy to use.
everyones guilty!
Could all of you go outside for a little bit, touch grass, smile at a stranger?
Sometimes I get angry at myself for wasting my time in pointless discussions, but this is next-level wankery. If you know that hexbear is a pig hut, don't come here to complain that you are full of mud and pig shit in your face.
Reported as off-topic.
I'd say questions regarding the leanings of specific instances are legitimate and those have been answered but questions regarding what constitutes terrorism and the motivations of fighters in armed conflicts are out of scope for this community. This is just a community about the Fediverse on Lemmy World, we don't arbitrate moderation disagreements here.
You're defending an IDF soldier who was proud of doing their job, on a radical Marxist-leninist forum. Call it trolling or whatever, but that's kinda on you.
I'm not defending an IDF soldier and they were not proud to do their job, thats pure chinese propaganda. I'm explaining how its fucked up to hold something someone did under duress when they were 18 over their heads forever. But you cant see that because the fascists delete anything they cant debate against. All the Hexbears were saying she should have gone to jail for an nondeterministic amount of time, and be outcast from her family, to prevent being a secretary for an awful regime. shes a victim of propaganda just like the hexbears that arnt collecting a check from china.
anyway I figured theyd say something entertaining as a response, I was not expecting the 'death to all Americans', and I was super not expecting dessalines to sponsor these threats!
That's not just it. She literally hoped she would get an exiting job for the IDF, and said herself, in the following video, that she went on raids "for fun": https://youtu.be/ytOl5hbTrCY
Also even if it was propaganda, tf do you mean by "chinese" 😭
This is kinda on you, you chose to visit hexbear. Just block that instance. And while you are at it, also block lemygrad.
Remains the question: why the self-flagellation?
I mean, what do you expect? Those two unwashed apes created Lemmy because no one wanted to listen to them on Reddit. Just try staying away from .ml, your online experience will be vastly improved.
for sure, sometimes I like to keep an eye on what BS the propagandists are pushing tho
I once called Hezbollah dumb and got my comment removed by Dessalines, for breaking rule 2: be respectful 🤭
You can see the hexbear calls me a nazi and a settler, and when I ask him why, he confirms that its just because im american with the most insane quote:
Seemingly suggesting that all americans are settlers who should settle a different country to atone for the crimes of their forefathers...
And where does that call for death? It’s stupid, sure, but take some time off and you’ll see you were far more uncivil.
Yeah after reading the comments, OP is definitely the one in the wrong here. The hexbear response was remarkably tame.