Tumblr to join fediverse

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atomicpoet

It really would be so much easier to just boost Mastodon posts into a Lemmy community.

shoulderoforion

that's crazy talk, next you'll be telling us we should be able to actually block people from seeing and interacting with our posts

ayyy

Stop posting on a public forum and go text your friends if that’s what you want.

NSRXN

the Lemmy block system works as intended. if you want some other system, use some other service. but being a federated system, you can't actually stop the data from being visible, or someone from creating a new user and interacting, if your post is public.

aasatru

Hopefully whenever mastodon gets quote posts we'll see something similar pop up over here.

atomicpoet

You don't need to wait on Mastodon to do it.

Obviously, I'm not talking about you specifically -- Threadiverse devs generally.

For example, some of this functionality already exists on Friendica.

aasatru

For sure! But considering Mastodon has most of the content that would be quote posted this way and most of the users who would be subject to it, and they are working on it (at their own pace), I think it would be tactile to see how it is implemented in Mastodon first and then proceed from that.

It could for example be that Mastodon users will be able to opt out of quote posts in general or in specific posts. If so, this should be respected in other implementations as well. And in general, it's just nice to have things consistent, and when it's taking the Mastodon team so long to implement I suspect it's because they're devoted to making sure they do it right. :)

atomicpoet

Quote posting is already available on Misskey, Friendica, and Akkoma.

Threads also has that feature, and they use the same standard as Misskey.

Even Mastodon clients like Icecubes and Phanpy do quite posting.

At this point, it makes no sense to wait on Mastodon to implement features.

aasatru

No doubt they're taking their sweet time with it. Then again, knowing the Mastodon user base, whenever it is implemented people will probably go crazy and think it's the biggest invasion of privacy since the gestapo.

By the way, here's from Monday's development update:

The team also made significant progress on the specification for Quote Posts. It needs a few minor changes, but we expect to publish it for comment in February, and start implementation right away. The current plan is to publish Mastodon 4.4 with support for displaying Quote Posts, and then add authoring in Mastodon 4.5.

Sergio

Say, are you saying that it's possible to take an existing Mastodon post, and post it into Lemmy? If so can you pliz point me to someplace that says how to do that? So far I've only seen this guide: https://anonsys.net/display/bf69967c-1467-8270-7e3d-48d984455929 and it only says how to crosspost a new Mastodon post, not an existing Mastodon post.

atomicpoet

Right now, you can crosspost to a Friendica group by mentioning the group actor handle (ex: @fediversenews@venera.social. And because Friendica supports quoted boosts, you can boost to a Friendica group through this method.

Lemmy could easily support this feature.

Microw

Are Lemmy devs aware that this would be a possible way of something to support?

aasatru

Lemmy devs tend not to be very proactive when implementing interoperability with other fediverse services. I would expect support to pop up in Mbin and/or PieFed first, and possibly Lemmy later.

That said, I would be surprised if they were not aware of the possibility, I just doubt it's a priority at the moment.

Microw

Not true IMO, Lemmy is way more after interoperability than for example Mastodon

Refurbished Refurbisher

I thought Lemmy already supported that. I've seen a few Mastodon posts around.

aasatru

Mastodon users can post to the Threadiverse by tagging a community, but since we don't have "quoted boosts"/quote posts, there's no way of including an existing thread or post when doing so.

yessikg

I'll believe it when I see it

NickwithaC

I'm sure I've read this headline before and nothing came of it then.

TrueStoryBob

Automattic declined to share a time frame as to when the migration would be complete, given its scale, but a rep for the company called the progress so far “exciting.”

Yeah, they've been talking about this for years now.

Ricky Rigatoni 🇺🇸

With all the decades of poorly made freshman intern tier spaghetti code Tumblr is built on it's no surprise adding anything takes a long time.

TriflingToad

of all platforms I didn't expect the hellsite to federate.

Scrollone

They've been recently bought by Automattic (WordPress), so this doesn't surprise me. I wouldn't have expected it if they were still owned by their previous owner though.

werefreeatlast

We're gonna need a blocking button.

ColdWater

As long as there's no toxic behaviour from them, I'm more than OK with this

Willowthewisp

Oh you mean the one run by a conservative who’s a massive bigot? Greaaaaat.

Feathercrown

I welcome our colon three posting brothers and sisters

genevieve

ε:

OctaviaMeowzly

:3

Womdat10

:3

serpentineminor

some of us are already here :3

DoucheBagMcSwag , edited

As long as the NSFW comes over. The block button is right there for anyone who doesn't like it

I Cast Fist

I thought tumblr's porn part never recovered after the 2018 purge

Krompus

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Roflmasterbigpimp

( . Y . )

zalgotext

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Die Martin Die , edited

>:)8-<

Quokka

@Krompus @DoucheBagMcSwag

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flamingos-cant

Why did you link to a Mastodon post and not the actual article?

Sergio

The article seems well-written, except that:

the fediverse — the open social web powered by the protocol ActivityPub also used by Mastodon, Threads, Flipboard, and others.

Seriously? Flipboard has like one thousand Monthly Active Users and we have like 50 times that, but we're like "and others" lel... I guess they didn't mention Pixelfed either tho and it's a lot "hotter"...

nasi_goreng

That article is intended for casual readers. These people might be more familiar with Flipboard than Lemmy or Pixelfed.

The same way that people are familiar with Blackberry or Nokia despite none of them even reach mainstream market anymore.

Ricky Rigatoni 🇺🇸

Last thing we need is casual news readers joining. This is the dark souls of the fediverse and I am the undead burg twink invader.

Zero22xx

One thing at least is that when you search "Reddit alternatives", most articles that I came across seemed to make out like Lemmy is the best option in terms of amount of users and not being advertised explicitly as a "free speech and censorship free platform", which we all know really means "bigots are welcome here." In fact when I was searching Reddit alternatives, it seemed to me that Lemmy is really the only option.

gedaliyah

Can anyone eli5?

Will it federate with AP platforms?

asudox

It will federate with other AP platforms.

slinkyjelly

how do you link pixelhub and lemmy to tumblr

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA

Oh hellsite

bean

Wow, way to try staying relevant I guess? They had a huge following and the porn was flowing during the good times. They blew their chance and now it’s a shell of itself. Fuck Tumblr.

straightjorkin

Maybe if they did something about their porn bot problem I'd be happier to see this

DoucheBagMcSwag , edited

There's always the block button.

What an amazing concept right? Being able to personally filter out individually what you don't like.

straightjorkin

I will applaud tumblr for having a good block button. But it doesn't solve the porn bot problem.

katy ✨

I've been on Tumblr since the David Karp days and I'll be there for the rest of my life.

Like the wind...

Neocities is Tumblr if it were worth anyone's time.

nasi_goreng

No support for user post though...

That means nothing to federate.

xigoi

Unfortunately ActivityPub does not work with static websites.

jagged_circle , edited

Banned

cheers_queers

it's an old microblogging platform, was popular around Myspace era but still has a decent base. it's mostly fandom stuff, art and porn.. i personally like following artists on there

slinkyjelly

wasn't the porn banned a few years ago

cheers_queers

they backtracked when they realized how many people were on there for the porn lol

jamie_oliver , edited

Tumblr was a lot of fun. Yes it is a microblogging platform, but that doesn't explain what the appeal *was*. I have no idea what the appeal is today as I left in 2015.

People would share text or image or links of things they liked, and if you reblogged it (shared to your own blog) the comment you added would be retained when someone reblogged your reblog, creating ludicrous chains of conversations that people would build and build on. They eventually became unreadable because they got squashed into one line. There was no way to comment without reblogging.

Tumblr predates influencer culture, and tumblr celebrities were not really a thing (except for \@pizza by accident being tagged everywhere).

You also had a tag system, where you added hashtags to reblogs that were searchable. This way you would find topics you liked, and blogs to follow. If you followed you would get their reblogs in your home feed.

The blogs had custom CSS, with graphics and music playing but less free for all than MySpace. This made some blogs into minor art pieces, along with the things they reblogged. This was a big part of what made tumblr cool when websites all started going uniform and looking exactly the same.

For me the initial appeal was high def images. Instagram had not taken off, and so finding consistent high quality images of art, nature, sub culture and pop culture imagery or artists, porn etc. was not as obvious as it is today.

I loved tumblr but eventually got bored. Eventually they killed custom CSS and porn, and basically made tumblr worthless for anyone who wasn't into fandoms (/s but kind of not. I have no idea what happens on tumblr today).

jagged_circle

Banned

jamie_oliver

I have never gotten into twitter so I couldn't say, and I narrowly missed MySpace as well..

It was a lot of fun tho

Ougie

You are not alone there

Jake Farm

God I hope my instance defederates with them.

IndescribablySad@threads.net

Why? Tumblr is terrible, but in a good way.

TropicalDingdong

Tumblr is terrible

Stay terrible fam.

go $fsck yourself

Because Automattic owns Tumblr and is run by a douchebag transphobe that is also destroying WordPress. (Though, to be fair WordPress is fucking trash)

sp3ctr4l

No, tumblr is terrible in a 'hyperventilating gaslighting cliques of pretentious elitist malignant narcissists acting like cult leaders and followers' way.

IndescribablySad@threads.net

That’s what I said, good, yes

nasi_goreng

What's wrong?

Tumblr on fediverse by default will increase variation of community in fediverse. Especially, fediverse right now is still mainly filled with American or European related topics.

A_Very_Big_Fan

You could just block them yourself if you don't like leftist spaces that much

m_f

Tumblr doesn't really strike me as leftist, so much as having a low signal:noise ratio

schnurrito

In the early-to-mid 2010s Tumblr was mainly associated with "social justice" types of people, it seems to have become a lot less relevant at some point in the late 2010s.

NOT_RICK

That would be when they banned porn in 2018.

schnurrito

probably, I remember something along those lines

maplebar , edited

Instead of hoping your instance does something, just make your own instance. That's the whole idea.

xigoi

Or just don’t follow anyone there? Nobody is forcing you to read posts on any federated instance. I am shocked by the kind of egocentrism that leads you to think that if you don’t like people on a given instance, you should prevent everyone else on your instance from interacting with them.

shoulderoforion

tumblr is life

Endymion_Mallorn

All of you who were making a fuss over Threads had better act the same way about this - after all, it's Verizon.

shoulderoforion

No, Verizon does not own Tumblr. Verizon sold Tumblr to Automattic, the owner of WordPress.com, in August 2019

Lost_My_Mind

I don't understand the logic. Verizon buys tumblr, knowing it has porn, knowing porn is what makes it popular.

Kills porn.

Kills the valuation of the brand

Sells for far less than they bought it for.

Explain please.

grte

They gambled that the additional ad revenue they'd be able to bring in with a sanitized web site would be greater than the revenue lost from some of their userbase leaving the site. It was a bad gamble.

TrueStoryBob

Yeah, the plan was similar to when Time-Warner acquired Myspace only to not understand what a social media site is inherently; then fumble the bag and sell as fast as possible. They really fucked themselves left right and center on that deal... but everyone's friend Tom is still a multimillionaire.

TheFogan

It's the porn paridox. Porn gets users. Advertisers pay per user... but won't pay anything if there's porn. Users without advertisers or subscription costs are worthless.

The Snark Urge

Skill issue

Polygondenimland

Wait wasn't it yahoo that initially killed the porn?

HowAbt2morrow

This all sounds like the Tenacious D song about trying to kill Rock & Roll

Polygondenimland

The porn will strike you down with a vicious blow!

otto

Good ‘ol Cunnigham’s Law

Endymion_Mallorn

Oh. So it depends on your position on WPEngine instead.

lime!

depends on whether matt mullenweg knows you exist

also i've only just realized why he named the company auto-matt-ic oh my god

Emily (she/her) , edited

Verizon sold Tumblr to WordPress in 2019

ZeroOne

Nooooooooooooo

Viri4thus

Please no

FaceDeer

Heaven forbid an open protocol see *adoption.*

FlashMobOfOne

Is it still the same SJW hellhole it was a decade ago?

Whateley

Lol, people are still using SJW as a snarl world in 2025?

rigatti

No, the word is DEI now.

Zero22xx

In the '80s and '90s, everything these people didn't like was 'satanic'. Then that nonsense seemed to disappear for about a decade. Until those people returned with updated terminology that makes them look like 'free speech' warriors to all the kids and not the dogmatic psychos that they are.

So since then we've gone from SJW to woke to now DEI. But it's always been the same fucking people, or types of people, that told me that all the cartoons I watch and music I listen to was 'evil' and 'satanic' when I was a kid.

I actually almost fell for the SJW thing myself back in the day. I was circling that drain. Until I opened my eyes and saw the company that I was in. Since then I've been borderline 'SJW' myself because fuck those people.

ObliviousEnlightenment

Those people ended up driving me into being a queer DEI Satanist lol

PlainSimpleGarak

I mean, come on people, it's *current year*, not *past year*.

earthman
@Whateley @FlashMobOfOne now expressing any kind of empathy = "white knighting"
DarkSirrush

As with the fediverse, there are a lot of user curated blacklists to get rid of the problem children.

Just don't trust shinigamieyes, that shit got taken over by terfs a few years back and now lists a lot of innocent trans bloggers.

NSRXN

thebadspace has no real rhyme or reason either and lists a lot of folks I think are fine, and also gives (almost) no reason or receipts.

Kayday

Wait, what? That's disappointing. I use Shinigamieyes, haven't noticed anything weird yet.