I spent the last year working on the Fediverse. Here's what I've learned.

submitted 2025-02-17T20:04:10Z by Meldrik

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I'm quite happy the Fediverse exists. Thanks for making the video and posting it to Lemmy!

Meldrik [OP]

I didn't make it! It was @gardiner_bryant@mastodon.online

1024_Kibibytes

Well then, thank you for the clarification. And thank you for linking to the original source!

Cabslock

Well guys, you're making a great example of what he was talking about in the video, about netiquette and "kindness is king"!! Keep it up!

ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝

And thank you for being so supportive in their endeavours to make the Small Web kinder. 👍👍

0ops

Well thank yoouu for recognizing an excellent example of promoting polite discussion

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Dojan , edited

"What would happen if Facebook, twitter, and YouTube cooperated with one another?"

That sounds like a fucking dystopian nightmare, is what it does. Though I know this is about the software, and not the companies.

schizo

The only way you could make that worse is if Palantir bought them all first.

astronaut_sloth

Damn, don't go giving them ideas!

sunzu2 , edited

The Prophecy has foretold that all of them will end up under the Gatorade brand anyway

Snowstorm

Brawndo!

TheFogan

I mean in short they are attempting the same gist... just, you know mainly in the form of all of them vying to be the all in one. After google's disasterus google plus... facebook implimenting threads and video hosting, they all are hoping to be a one stop shop.

lordnikon

I'm pretty sure they do along with a few more companies it's called the united states government.

WamGams

Thanks!

I am gonna watch tonight when I get home. I would love to start working on the fediverse. I have a lot of ideas. I just never learned to code and not quite sure how to get started.

ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝

You don't have to start big. Come up with a simple idea, figure out how you can make it in an accessible language (like Python or PHP), grab some tutorials and get cracking.

ocean

Thanks for sharing! Fun video.

pelespirit

So, I watched the whole thing and they mentioned castopod (podcasts) and owncast (live streaming). He also mentioned hashtags to find what you're looking for. Is there a search engine for across the fediverse? For example, that would be amazing to go there and find hashtags from pixelfed and castopod and owncast even if they don't communicate with each other. It's not about instance finding, but about topic finding. That search engine would be the bomb or does it already exist?

Zak

It doesn't exist, and some people get really mad whenever someone tries to make one.

https://cathode.church/fedi-scraper-counter.html

inconel

I mean given the demographic of fedi, ignoring robots.txt or GDPR removal requests warrant negative reaction and many in the list fall in that classification.

Microw

And others dont fall into that classification, additionally it has been shown that the list's author does not bother to actually check what is true about "scraping" accusations and just includes whatever accusation gets raised

arotrios

This is a core issue with ActivityPub, one that I noticed myself when I started working with it. Unless a server is setup to keep a user's private marked posts completely off the ActivityPub feed, they're accessible within it to any script that ignores the opt-out request.

My personal example was setting up wordpress to interact with a Mastodon instance, and suddenly finding private conversations published from Mastodon to my wordpress site that weren't visible to me at all on Mastodon.

Needless to say, that gave me pause about building anything with the protocol until I really understand the access control behind publishing, because even instance owners don't seem to fully grasp it themselves.

Ulrich , edited

Castopod Index and Owncast Directory

pelespirit

While those are great, I meant between the different activity pub apps.

turdburglar

this is solid video. it does the best job of any i’ve seen so far to explain what the fediverse is and why we should be using it.

…so much so that i’ve shared it with three people that i’ve been trying to explain the fediverse to but i did a terrible job. thanks for posting it.

4Robato , edited

Very clear and nice video!

With that said, I was a bit disappointed when I joined the Fediverse about the interaction between social medias. I usually used reddit and very little twitter and I was excited when I saw the Fediverse and that you could even follow from other Social media but from lemmy you cannot follow people from mastodon and from mastodon you can technically follow communities but you see all replies and the feed becomes overwhelming while in Lemmy I choose if I open the comment section for a specific entry.

So I ended up with the same number of accounts on the fediverse than in centralized platforms which is fine but I think Fediverse sells this too much. For me decentralization is a good enough point to stay.

And about the AI thingy and the feeds, I think we are just seeing the early Fediverse same as early internet but I'm sure in the future we will have apps that create a feed for you if you want to so to me that's something that we also shouldn't sell as a positive OR negative. I think this is something that will simply change as the Fediverse grows.

But this is not a criticism of the video! Just my personal thoughts :)

qkalligula

@4Robato So it's a PITA to set it up... but Friendica seems to solve this issue. I wish there was a decent mobile app to recommend... but I really like the bookface theme. But yeah, here I am posting this to lemmy and the post below this is from mastodon or various other fedi's

But it is a bit of a pain to set up to get it how I like it... by default they basically give you all the keys to the castle and laugh at you. when you dont know where to go