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FOSSDLE PieFed
When a fediverse app wins, the whole fediverse wins. A rising tide lifts all ships or however it goes.
iirc it goes "chafing thighs attract all chicks"
Kick ass! I'm all for more Fediverse stuff getting popular, and if this has any competition, just means more features will be added across all of them.
Hell yeah! 2025 is the year of the Fediverse !
If you look at monthly active users instead of total users, Pixelfed is a strong 2nd place.
What are you guys posting pictures of over on pixelfed? What's goin' on over there that's so popular? Is it more politics, and social issues? Or is it cats?
There's a sudden influx of users from instagram and tiktok and whatnot because of the ban, zuckerberg fellating Trump, and all of that stuff going on. So the answer to "What's getting posted?" is "everything"
that user name logo should be a war crime
I have standing orders to invade the Hague if ever tried there
It's hilarious because it is so distracting ... I scroll down my page and see this loading icon and it took me several passes before I got used to it.
It's like Pavlov's dog .... I see a loading icon and I immediately sit there and wait ... for something, I don't know what but I have to wait ... I took me a few times before I got used to it.
Interesting because i just joined 1 day ago so my feed only has 5 default following, but discover only has about 5 other peoples' work repeated through the discover tab. It seems difficult to discover new people which could be a problem in retaining normal people after the ibflux, like what happened to lemmy
Which server did you join? I've been following lots of hashtags (including cats), so my feed there is pretty active. Just hoping some IRL friends and family will join soon so I have those sort of accounts to follow and share with.
Gram.social
To me, the entire idea behind federation is that, like mastodon and Lemmy, you can see everything in the space, not just what is on your own server, *especially by default or extremely upfront and clear way to make the behavior like that.* That is the entire thing people are afraid of when they have to choose a server which leads to centralization or people simply leaving.
I mean I also don't get any of the hashtags I follow on my feed. Only the 5 accounts they forced me to follow by default.
It's hard for me to believe the number of 44k monthly active users and yet the "most popular accounts" that I can see on discover have 45 followers and there is virtually no activity outside of a few photographers that imported their Instagram account.
Crazy enough. People are posting what they were posting on instagram.
...........titty pictures of girls in bikinis from women who claim to be influencers, but have an audience that mostly doesn't communicate or care what she has to say, thus negating any influence her words have?
I dunno, I only follow capybarabot.
My dog. no really, hes a good boy.
And I follow one of the people from an Aquarium with fantastic shots.
From what I have found, its almost all photos of animals and nature. Honestly I am kinda disappointed. I want memes. I also got onto Loops and that is also mostly animals and nature, but with the very occasional funny.
I posted a guide to modding a tatacon for taiko no tatsujin
........did you just have a stroke??? Did you turn Japanese midsentence? What just happened here?
That’s not Japanese fyi, 太鼓の達人 is the Japanese name
It is Japanese drumming game with an associated controller, I posted a guide with pictures to modify the drum controller so it’s more sensitive to being hit
I'd say it's Japanese, just the romaji for 太鼓の達人. English translation would be like "drum master"
*omae wa mō shindeiru*
なに?!
Severely underrated game (with also one of the most underrated minigames ever!). I just wish it had more vidya crossover music.
The new one has more game music than old ones did. But to get a lot of it you have to subscribe. Thankfully the subscription isn’t terribly expensive ($10/3mo) and it’s easy to get it in a way that doesn’t auto renew. Music licensing is stupid though so music games are dying and will probably forever be subscription services going forward. The days of buying a game like guitar hero are long gone.
It has the classic ones like Mario medley, Zelda overworld, Kirby, persona 5, undertale, etc. but the game pass adds stuff like tekken, id@lmaster, ridge racer, tales of symphonia, ace combat, etc.
it’s a weird mix that’s definitely missing a lot of iconic stuff though. The push is definitely more pop/vocaloid/anime music
Alternatively you can get something like opentaiko or tjaplayer (closer to the real game) and use custom charts from a site like https://ese.tjadataba.se/ESE/ESE . You need a pc but it doesn’t require a particularly great pc and pretty much every drum controller, including the official console ones, work on pc.
I definitely wish it was more popular in the west. Online play is an absolute ghost town unless you play during Japan time. Like if you play during peak us hours matchmaking will literally spend 20-30 minutes to find no one.
Everything. It’s like early days Instagram, but people are more politically and socially aware, and posting about those things.
It's mostly landscape, food, and cats.
I'm mainly posting dogs and computers
ikr lemmy has a little over 40k active users. If you look at the first data point just as the slope starts to rise, that's where lemmy is by comparison:
Total users is pretty meaningless bc it includes things like users who left and will never return, and bot accounts.
Misskey should have more active users, even more than Pixelfed right now. Almost all Japanese fediverse users are on Misskey instances.
A lot of post in Misskey instance are often followers only. I know several instance that the admin say they have thousands of users but simply not reporting any MAU users for certain reason. Even the one that report them are usually lower than actual MAU due to "offline mode"
I've been wondering about that - the Misskey numbers are very weird, with MAU even lower than the number of new users that join in an average month. But this is a good explanation, thanks. It's just too bad there's not a good way to get MAU for them.
What’s first?
Mastodon
Is this the fediverse's answer to Instagram?
Yes.
-Instagram has pixelfed. -Reddit has lemmy -X has Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma (&forks..) -Tiktok has loops (app still super rough around the edges and sadly on limited to one instance rather than having its own software from what i understand) -Youtube has peertube (so far the least used i think)
I can't wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it's got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.
I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.
Exactly!! YouTube is by far the best "social" platform (or least shit) and sadly the strongest monopoly. Cus what the fuck is a newly made competitor gonna do? Rip all YouTube videos and host them? People on IG and X etc don't really go around looking at old posts, those places are more for looking at what's new and such. On YouTube however its entirely game that u find a dope edutainment video from years ago that you happen to vibe with.
That is very true, and I think some kind of archive is going to be important eventually. I think to get around the hosting costs, one method could be for peertube instances to form a union of instances for collective purchases, because the cost goes down with scale.
With a large enough group you could even split hosting among different providers to prevent a monopoly from forming in the hosting space.
I think a big part of that is just straight up storage space, more specially a lack thereof. Google won't release specifics but estimates put the total data stored by YouTube at somewhere near an exabyte (1 million terrabytes). Most of which is made up by video files.
Of course that's just issue number 1 of many to figure out.
Does peertube have monetization for creator's? Because that's how you get content that most people watch.
Honestly youtube barely has it currently. The vast majority of creators make very little on the platform and rely largely on supporter donations, merch and sponsorships, which could work on any platform.
By squeezing creators out of every penny they can, youtube has forced people to find other options abd made themselves less and less relevant. I guess that's enshittification for you.
You can also gate access to certain videos on peertube, so a nebula-like model might also work eventually.
I'm genuinely confused. Is YouTube even profitable ATP? Hard to imagine it not being so but they've been doubling down on squeezing out every coin they can, trying to fight adblock is one example, pushing out more ads too. Wtf even is going on over there.
I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?
You just pick an instance and join it, sadly i don't think it has enough federation yet so its entirely possible u just chose a bad instance and have amazing creators sitting on other instances yours isn't federated with
If you f up and join lemmy.dbzero you wont see any posts from lemmyworld users and the same issue if you join the other
That's actually not true. Lemmy.world and lemmy.dbzer0.com are fully federated, you can see for yourself if you check the instances tab.
The only thing that people incessantly complain about is that lemmy.world blocked one single community from dbzer0, the piracy community. For an account on lemmy.dbzer0, that has absolutely no effect. For an account on lemmy.world, that just means they need an alt if they want to participate in that one community. The two userbases can still fully interact all over lemmy, it's just that lemmy.world decided to block the piracy community to cover their asses legally.
Look, here's https://lemmy.world/c/adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
But people make such a big deal about that one blocked community that a lot of people get the idea that they are defederated or something. You're not the first person I've had to correct about this, not even the first *this week* lol.
Incorrect, I'm on dbzer0 and see all of LW just fine
Does this help?
https://docs.joinpeertube.org/use/setup-account
Yea peertube is rough... Mostly in part due to, in my opinion at least, people wanting to make use of YouTube's ad revenue system even tho most creators I watch making most of their income via donations rather than ad revenue.
Where does Honk fit into this? https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk
Is there federated Tumblr? @Newbuild@lemmy.nz is still on Tumblr and drag wants to get thing away from corporate media even if Tumblr has a better record than literally every other corpo media
Microblogging is covered by Mastodon and Pleroma. People there could easily use them for the same content. There are a ton of options to crosspost tumblr to Mastodon.
The biggest problem is discovery on Tumblr is a LOT easier than Mastodon, you have to advertise and advocate for yourself
Sorry, genuinely forgot what tumblr even does/is lol.
lmao. Bot got drag to make an account and tried to teach drag, and drag still doesn't get it either. Bot can explain.
Wafrn
Yes and the same developer does Loops, the TikTok "equivalent"
Not sure when he sleeps
fuck it, I tried mastodon, I'll give pixelfed a try too.
https://pixelfed.org/
Thanks to Fedilab, I can't tell the difference!
Just tried to sign up for over thirty minutes, this'll always be the biggest barrier. I have an account but can't seem to login.
I’ve liked pixelfed. I don’t use it much though because my friends aren’t on it so I don’t see much of a point.
Same, just created an account on metapixl.com even though I never used Instagram before
People like looking at photos of food and cats more than being railed for having "incorrect* political viewpoints? (/s for anyone not picking up on that btw:-P)
Its nice right now...Hope it stays.
I literally just got called a snowflake in another thread for saying people should stop posting US politics in general communities. People still wonder why Lemmy has a bad reputation even in the entire Fediverse... Sometimes I wonder why I still bother here.
Yeah, that's definitely a shame. Let's see how it goes, but I'm about to create a !usdefaultism somewhere just to list those occurrences
2024
Less than half, that actually surprises me. I honestly assume most people I meet online are Yanks.
I could see the numbers being a little different for Lemmy, but I don't expect that they're wildly different.
I think a lot of people talk like Yanks, or just don’t clarify. I’ve had conversations with other Brits where we both assume the other is a Yank.
Nowadays, other countries also have Internet and can speak English
*Yoink*
Grabbing that for future reference. That's the stats from 2024? Is there like a link to the actual source? Significantly more US-centered then I thought, especially since one would assume the numbers were even more skewed 5-10 years ago.
Lemmy is much more weighted towards an international userbase in my experience, which can be frustrating for the American audience at times, but also has its benefits.
Doesn't seem like a super reliable source. I just grabbed the first result I googled.
I got it from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1bg323c/oc_reddit_traffic_by_country_2024/
It lists worldpopulationreview.com on the image.
There this statista link which has similar numbers and sounds more detailed, but still doesn't have sources available. Google's AI points to statista.
So nothing definitive. But I certainly expect that most users are from the US.
I get it but that sounds so weird to me, lol
That's reddit, not Lemmy?
Would you have such stats for LW? Really curious as it feels more balanced here
With the data from https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list,
Honestly neither of these give a very good impression of where users are from, but I don't think lemmy collects that data. Maybe if there was some way to check which languages people have listed?
This is awesome; I’m too tired to do it right now - but I’d I remember I’d really like to normalise this against country populations to see what percent of a nation is a Reddit user.
At a glance, I’m pretty sure Australia is punching well above its weight - if nothing else.
It's actually the second or third thing I mention about Lemmy if it ever comes up in conversation. Sometimes I feel like just dropping it because of it.
!usdefaultism@lemmy.world
I've seen it, but seems abandoned, and not a fan of yet another community on LW
The mod still seems to be active, last comment made 19 hours ago
I don't disagree it's an issue, but what *should* be allowed in general communities? If any other nation's politics are allowed, then you can't really just not allow US politics (unless you make that a rule for the community and part of its purpose, which is fine).
There are just more Americans here than any particular other nationality, so you get more US content on average. You'll need specific non-US communities if you want to avoid it. Expecting general communities to not reflect the general audience is a little absurd.
!politics@lemmy.world isn't about any country politics, it's exclusively about US politics (see the sidebar)
!youshouldknow@lemmy.world should be useful information for everyone, not only US citizens
i just hate the way most people here assume everyone is coming from US smh
Or the vast majority of political spam from only one country. I’d like more of a worldview. Be interesting to see how others have other problems and how it might be solved with other solutions.
Someone called you a snowflake? Ok....uh, I'll call you a carrot.
But also, I don't understand the rules for this game. It's a snowman game, right?
I guess I am a snowflake too then, bc to me consent should matter. And while the USA is a part of the world, and also has an oversized effect upon it due to the size of the economy and trade deals and the like, it also can be overwhelming for some, who feel ostracized and left out as if only the big guys (and guns) matter.
But on the other hand, it is known that moderation sucks across the vast majority of Lemmy - it's somewhat baked right into the tools themselves, e.g. removing whole posts rather than merely taking them out of the community lists but allowing people to continue their discussions already begun, as Reddit does.
So you may want to take it upon yourself to either start blocking by keywords (maybe find an app that allows that - I'm not sure which ones), or user accounts that do that, or even find a better community to engage with.
Though I agree with your conclusion: I no longer recommend Lemmy to people irl by virtue of having been burned by that far too many times before. We're toxic AF in this Alt-Left (rather than Alt-Right) "Nazi bar" space, and a lot of the people here are legit those banned from Reddit for exactly that behavior.
Moderation isn't ideal, but absent moderators aren't going to moderate even with the best tools
I mean, PieFed has some really cool thoughts about doing exactly that... I'm hoping for a lot there.
As it is, Lemmy is simply a more authoritarian version of Reddit - at the low level I mean, next to the users, who e.g. have no modmail recourse to discuss anything, nor even receive a notification that their content has been removed. Even while it is also open source so allows instance admins greater freedom to implement whatever policies they choose - disabling downvotes for example.
Anyway the more the technology can do the less reliance upon human efforts to moderate. e.g. to facilitate automated community discovery, so that there is lowered barriers to getting away from bad moderators.
PieFed is highly promising, but I wish you didn't feel the need to go overboard with criticizing Lemmy. Calling Lemmy a more authoritarian version of reddit... that's a pretty wild take.
That's like calling tribal societies more authoritarian than Stalinist or fascist states. There's no such thing as low-level authoritarianism, that doesn't make any sense. The users can message the mods directly, and they can go as they wish and do as they please. It's like calling the nuclear family unit authoritarian, it becomes a nonsensical concept when applied to human-scale social organization. It refers to large scale social units such as nations and political parties, not small groups of freely associated individuals like Lemmy.
You're still stuck in the reddit mindset where there isn't anywhere else to go, everything is contained in one closed box controlled by spez. On Lemmy you can go and build your own box, and there are already dozens to choose from that are free and open to join.
I use a bridge to matrix for private messages to the bot accounts, reports for posts for which there are multiple bot accounts on different instances because federation is broken for reports, and new posts to the communities (where the last one was merged just few hours ago). We are also contemplating getting ourselves the functionality to automatically message users when we take action on their post/comment.
It's crazy how far we have to go to make moderating stuff easier/more pleasant to do. I hope lemmy improves in that by a lot at some point.
My another gripe is no ability to detect image reposts because in image heavy communities they're very common and remembering what was posted and when is a massive pita. That would fall under a bot category and not integrated feature (but would be cool if it was deeply integrated into lemmy so situations where it would tell you if it's a repost BEFORE you even post it could be possible) but it's still something that makes it harder to moderate. Same goes for posting to other communities because you need to check if it was posted recently or not if you aren't chronically online to know that already.
I’m also a snowflake, cause it’s also annoying that people assume you’re from USA.
That did make some sense... at one time, on Reddit or Facebook, but damn times have changed since then. Though teenagers have not :-).
What state are you from?
It’s what’s turned me off this entire time. Everything is replied to with someone virtue signaling.
I just got called a rapist! For asking wtf she was wearing, fashion wise. (On a non rape story just to be clear). I also wonder why I'm still here. Y'all need to be better.
Looking at the comments, I can see how your comment got misinterpreted. I do believe you had no such intention, but the way it was worded (especially the last word, 'anyway') makes it sound out of context as if you were victim blaming. And from the number of votes, it's obvious many see it that way. Rather than get mad at randos on the internet, why not just reflect that you might have written that in a somewhat confusing way, and clarify it? Without escalating.
I can see. But if people have a choice to interpret something as 1) that a question about fashion is in fact an innocuous question about fashion, or 2) that he's obviously a rapist and victim blaming and I'm going to call him a rapist (when the entire tone of the thread and community is not serious), the problem that I see is that Lemmy is quick to misinterpret in the worst way possible.
And oddly enough, *he* was the person to escalate with that accusation, and *I* was the one to explain it.
That's on the assumption that the reader sees both possible meanings, though. Most people don't do that, the first meaning that comes to mind is the one we go with. It's a very rare person that will, without external prompting, go 'I wonder if he meant something else?'.
From his POV, you had already escalated. Yeah it was due to his misunderstanding. But at that point you were the one with a choice as to whether to nicely explain your actual original meaning, (and maybe edit the confusing line?) or just rage about everybody on Lemmy being quick to assume the worst. Nobody's the asshole here, it was a misunderstanding, but you could have chosen to make it better :)
Where did someone call you a rapist? Was it removed?
You were just joking around, right? Well, perhaps they were too. If you want it assumed about you, perhaps go ahead and assume it about then. That way, even if the former does not happen, at least you will definitely have the moral high ground regardless. Now, what was it that Obi Wan always says about the high ground...? :-P
LOL no I wasn't joking around (about rape or anything else). It was a legit, straightforward question about fashion. And no he wasn't joking, it was a pretty clear accusation.
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TbF I've seen plenty of wildly inappropriate bans on Lemmy too.
The context of the post: 196 which is essentially a shit posting and take nothing serious community. Yeah that context. And that it was a straight question about what she was wearing, fashion wise since you really need to hear it. So thank you for demonstrating the exact problem!
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I'm so confused.
This place just needs better moderation. I've said this multiple times before but there is a serious lack of moderation and most admins go dark for long periods of time. Make it clear this behavior isn't okay, ban people who run their mouth, and remove low-effort posts.
Strong agree. Maybe we should start calling out communities with inactive mods. Like a spring cleaning of communities.
Could be a pretty easy flag to be displayed on any community. Basically last time the mod logged in or was active (should be available).
I personally have seen much worse overmoderation than undermoderation.
How dare you!! Here's why you need to be vegan right now by the way *grumble grumble grumble*
Oh excuse me, while I convert my entire personality to incorporate that energy...
There, done! I am now okay with murdering anyone who is okay with, ah... murdering a uh... wait, I may see a problem here.:-P
It is your fault President Musk got elected, shitlord!!!!
My feed on Pixelfed is way better the second week, now that I've followed a couple dozen folks and put some posts out there.
And pro tip: Post and tag a cute picture of your pet and people will see your account.
They need some starter packs like BlueSky because all I’m seeing are some art photography highly likely ai generated - and I have no idea where to find content that has any value. On searching the hashtags I’m getting mastodon posts containing links that can’t be clicked.
I thought that my first couple of days, but TBH, I actually really like that Fedi social media is completely self-directed. Not having the Jack Dorseys, Donald Trumps, and Zuckerbergs of the world vomiting content or stupid ads onto my feed is well worth the modicum of extra effort.
I found half of the people I'm following just by posting a picture of my dog and tagging it #CuteAnimals, and that got a nice response. I do follow a few hashtags and found follows there, but I will probably take them off once I'm up to 30-40 follows and I like my feed.
Mastodon has third-party starter packs now. I wonder if it works for Pixelfed?
Search with the magnifying glass icon. In Discover maybe you can find something.
Is there any integration with Lemmy? Cross promotion would be awesome, and something big tech can’t actually do.
I am but a humble end user using the web interface, but I do know mastodon comments can somehow show up on Lemmy.
Hello from Mastodon.
All of these "talk" ActivityPub so Pixelfed should already integrate in some form with Lemmy.
How are you responding from masto without the @ ?
I've never seen that before
The @ is only required for making posts on Lemmy from Mastodon, not replies AFAIK.
Moderately certain this is already happening, as evidenced by loops showing up so often in my "all" tab. If I understand correctly (and for the love of all that is good, someone please correct me if I'm wrong), Loops is "hosted" via pixelfed.
I think you are just seeing people repost loops to Lemmy as Loops isn’t federated yet
Oh, is loops going to be run as a totally separate service?
I'm not well educated on their project (nor on activity pub beyond a surface level understanding), but it was my understanding that is was going to be run as a sub-service of pixelfed. Don't suppose you can point to any resources on that topic?
It's just in early development and hasn't federated yet.
It's a separate thing from Pixelfed though. Just developed by the same guy.
Interesting to hear.
I'm super pumped for the project, but am largely waiting to get properly set up with it until there's a good app and I can on-board the friends and family all in one go. Really hoping to get them all off TikTok/YT Shorts/Reels/whatever corporate and nation run projects the kids are using these days.
Loops is made by the same developer as Pixelfed but I have no idea what he intends for loops
I'm not sure about Lemmy, but I found this post to be a good explanation of how Pixelfed interacts with Mastodon.
Based on what it says there, I wouldn't really expect it to play-nice with Lemmy though. We might be able to access Pixelfed posts here on Lemmy, but almost certainly not the other way around - because Pixelfed requires an image in every post.
yeah I also want some clarity around how that works and if it's functional rnow.
I was curious what the other apps were, found the list: https://fedidb.org/software
Any entry into the Fediverse is a good one!
Gateway drug!
Not surprising. As long as they can afford the servers, it will probably get to Mastadon levels.
Lemmy is a replacement for reddit, and reddit was always much smaller than Instagram.
Hopefully people are willing to donate to their instances to keep them financially healthy. It'll be a pretty big issue for growth if it starts to get popular but the larger instances can't afford to stay operational and disappear.
Good for pixelfed
Nice.
Nice.
Does anyone have recommendations who to follow on pixelfed?
Yeah dude me obviously. @mayur@pixelfed.social
Yesterday I revived my old Pixelfed account, and I have set myself a challenge, upload one photo every day for a month.
I have plenty of photos from the last decade to pick from
I don't know if this will mean that my account will be active in the long run, but I'll give it an honest try.
I posted this earlier in the thread:
https://pxlmo.com/p/stoy/787786012092436062
@stoy@pxlmo.com
I’m uploading shit daily. At least I’ll keep your feed busy.
Me.
... which is absolutely understandable considering how lemmy is most of the time,
it's politics non-stop, one bad news after another, everyone is quick to bash somebody as either a nazi or a tankie or something else.
there aren't many places where you can discuss politics or at least try to find comfort in seeing others think somewhat same way. No wonder its all concentrating here. But there definitely should be a lot more non-politics content.
It is simple and free of bloat. I like it much better than that youtube shorts analog I can't remember the name of.
Yeah but pixelfed is coming out with loops, it's been on beta for awhile, that is basically Tik Tok with no ads or government/big tech ownership. I personally feel like that could have taken a giant chunk of the Tik Tok users and kept them from having to learn to read ideograms to access content they wanted. I don't personally use that format of social media but I tried it on Android and it looks just like Tik Tok looked that I have seen on others devices.
The only reason why no company could take over TikTok is their algorithm, its the worst yet the best part of the app, since you only see stuff you like, without having to search for similar accounts. I’ve been feeling lonely on the Fedi compared to other socials
https://quiblr.com/understanding_your_private_personalized_feed
This is cool, seems to work pretty well, and an easy way to find communities you want to subscribe to
Yeah, discoverability is work on Fedi, unfortunately most people would rather consume algo content from a bad source then work to find good people to follow.
Everything is open, I suspect if we REALLY wanted to we could make an indexing service to help surface content based on preferences, but then that's a high value target for corporate America to farm. Also it would be pretty expensive to pay for it :)
I just can't imagine who will pay for that sort of reach. It's incredibly expensive for self hosting operations like TikTok. I'd imagine it'd be outrageous without a CDN.
The idea is you'd have dozens or hundreds of people hosting loops and they'd each spread the cost among them and get funded by followers and philanthropists. Most lemmy instances use CDN, but it's nowhere near as heavy media-wise.
You could also go the Peertube route and have the client share what you're watching with other people torrent style.
Maybe a CDN funded through a few non-profits, never looked into it
Runs much faster than java BlueSky, the destroyer of batteries.
I'm just worried a lack of content discovery, (foss) algorithms, other features and consistent development will have an adverse effect on this new growth. I'm glad that Dan finally got the apps on the stores at a critical moment though or we wouldn't even be here.
This is the issue. These apps don't use algorithms that made the apps they are meant to replace popular in the first place. People may come, but I fear they won't stay when it's not an exact clone of what they know.
At the very least though, at least the algorithms are open source so we know exactly how hot, rising, and scaled are sorted in Lemmy at least and so people who want those algorithms can choose if they wish and those who don’t want them don’t have to have them.
We should train people to mindfully find content. Content discovery algorithms just encourage shitposting. Just put the top posts by favorites or boosts or whatever they are called on Pixelfed in a special trending feed and then just sort your follows by chronological and local by chronological. But as long as their is options, I won’t complain.
Searching hashtags needs to have sort options to make that happen. I want to see most recent and top liked too.
Only enough people need to stay to make it a viable alternative for many. And even if it’s just the first step in migration away from Twitter/Meta then that’s still at least a step taken.
Everything helps.
No corporations in social media. No venture capital in social media.
✊
Why are you mad, Lemmy.ml and its constant propaganda and misinformation is one of the main reasons Lemmy isn't thriving.
LW dwarfes Lemmy.ml by any possible metric - https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active - https://lemmyverse.net/?order=active_month
It's just that IG is much more popular than Reddit, so the Fediverse equivalents have the same ratio
Try not to project .world on .ml for 5 seconds difficulty level impossible
This meme sucks.
My account got deleted for inactivity like forever ago. I don't post pics and there wasn't much there at the time, I wish they'd have left it but I understand.
Anyway, what's a good instance to make a new account? Mostly gonna lurk, don't post pics much (or really at all), as I said.
I like gram.social
Looks really cool, just discovered something liket his existed.
I don't know if Lemmy is for everyone, but I'm very happy to see the fedicerse gaining more traction.
Every user that onboards to pixelfed is going to now understand how to set up mastodon.
Blue sky is basically trying the exact same thing and expecting a different result.
Misskey seems really popular looking at numbers. I'm confused because nobody talks about it. Is it because of some niche super active audience?
It's big in Japan. Most of the servers are Japanese.
Its active in the non-english circles from what I hear. Probably a part of it.
Are they using the number.....100???
What are the top 2? Mastodon and what else?
By registered accounts: 1. Mastodon 2. Misskey 3. PeerTube
How the fuck is peertube above Lemmy??? What the actual fuck??? Everytime I go there, it's the same 3 people who've made like 5 daily videos about linux....and nothing else ever.
I get that I'm not exactly the target linux audience, but if KDE pulls an update from version 6.1 to 6.2, THAT IS NOT BREAKING NEWS!!! You do not need 10 videos discussing the 4 new features every time any linux software updates.
But THAT has more users than THIS??? It's a broken down joke with a lot of potential that will never be realized until their search becomes intutive and all inclusive! I should have video results natively within the same page that pulls from ALL of peertube. Not just the current instance.
"Trending" should default to trending on all of peertube. You can include a filter to show trending on local instance only, but it shouldn't be the default.
In some countries with vpn blocking it's the only way to get videos. there's also a lot of instances that don't federate. The default English relays are quite bad for English speakers but in French for example there's a huge amount of content.
I think that there's a lot more on PeerTube than it seems because discoverability is so terrible. I can't confirm that, though, because I can't find any of it.
Maybe something like FediSearch will make it more useful?
I literally had never even heard of Misskey and Peertube lol. I have a hard time thinking too mostly unknowns are bigger than Lemmy.
MissKey is like facebook. It's mostly Japanese users.
Peertube is like is Youtube had the same instance/decentralized format as Lemmy.
Except Lemmy actually has a functional search that you don't need to go to an external website to use. It's really broken.
Misskey is like Mastodon but with more features
Mastodon is twitter, peer tube is youtube, foxelfed is Instagram.... What is misskey?
Twitter. With a little google drive thrown into the mix. Plus simple custom algorithmic feeds. And some kooky animation stuff.
And also classic Facebook Social Games , Discord reaction, Facebook Groups, Facebook Photo Gallery, and some Japanese social media clone (that I forgot its name)
Word.
thanks. the link for this gives me what looks like a terminal. I sorta wish there was more of a centralized login thing.
It ain't a competition!!!
Plus I see that pixelped crowd can join the shit posters if they so chose?
Win win for fedi
so how do we interact with pixelfed from lemmy or mastodon?
Yes! We need a better interface between them
That might have been me:
https://pxlmo.com/p/stoy/787786012092436062
Also does anyone know how to get the post into lemmy? Im having issues importing other fediverse posts so I had to direct link. I would rather the owner of the post get recognition and likes/shares show up in mastodon/activityhub rather than just a static link on lemmy if possible.
For example on mastodon/pixelfed/etc... I can pull the remote url and create a post/share. It seems specific to lemmy.world. On other lemmy platforms, I can see posts, just older ones.
That’s the neat part! Lemmy.world doesn’t allow that😂😂😂. Best bet to move over to another instance if you like that type of integration.
Edited for misinterpretation
I thought I could do that on other lemmy instances?"
I can see: https://lemmy.world/u/atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org for example, it just isnt pulling anything new.
and nothing but you can see the user here: https://piefed.social/u/atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org
Edited, apologies
Its all good, any good examples of this specific link? I can see some old posts from the user but nothing recent on ANY lemmy instance. So you earier comment may be correct.
Yes, https://blog.elenarossini.com/the-future-of-social-is-here-a-show-and-tell-part-4-lemmy-piefed-mbin/
Go down to the section where it discusses interoperability, came across this as I was trying to understand and learn which software I should use for my own server/instance
One question, does LBRY (*The protocol powering Odysee*) count as something Federated ?
Does Odysee even use LBRY anymore? They abandoned the desktop app a while ago and I'm not sure how else you can use the protocol
(if so, then assuming everything is on Odysee then it's about as federated as Bluesky)
Well....... LBRY is hosting a fundraiser to revive & strengthen the project. Including setting up nodes for Charity purposes like for Public Domain stuff
There was a github request to integrate lbry into fedi, but it never gained any traction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse#/media/File:A_view_into_the_Fediverse.png
So, no, they're not in the fediverse and don't interconnect with the other players.
Here are the current places that play well together.
Odysee had a shot at making it bigger than it was, but it's really drowning in bad (moral and qualty) content. They never really recovered from their crypto scheme, once the SEC started looking into them, they got screwed. I'm down with the idea of paying creators in crypto, but they were selling it as a security.
Would you be glad to know that LBRY is trying to revive itself
I wish them the best of luck. Back when they were well funded, they had a hard time staying up without servers. I hope they sort it out.
it's all fascists and cryptobros
That's not a sane thought-process my friend, there are fascists in all platforms
Neat, is there a way to share from Immich to Pixelfed?
Manually copy and paste?
Immich is a photo storage software and the other is social media site.
How about an Immich integration, e.g. a button that says "Share via my PixedFed account" or even just the icon that would then post it on your behalf?
@atomicpoet just FYI. I couldnt figure out how to get the post directly in lemmy.world but thought I would mention it for you.
https://atomicpoet.org/notice/AqLpIQFs0Qk00FaWZs
Unfortunately that doesn't work in lw
Whats pixelfed all about? Im only now hearing about it.
photo sharing fediverse platform
Any good Android apps?
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.pixeldroid.app/
Thanks!
Pixelix!
It's a couple bucks in the Play store or free on F-Droid.
Thanks! I don't mind paying for something if it goes to a good place
It's always going to be like that; photo blogging is a lot more popular than niche forums and bulletin boards.
Also, Pixelfed has a lot more eyes on it because of Meta being in the news.
It's not a bad thing though.
Oh you mean people don't like being shouted and cursed at for having a moderate opinion.
you're comparing apples to oranges. Lemmy is for discussions pixelfed is for posting photos.
I mean people like mastodon and it’s full of the same takes. But on mastodon if you post a pro capitalist post to your timeline, people just ignore. Unlike on Lemmy where you have to post it on a post that’s likely to garner a response
What made the boom?
......have you not been following the news the past 6 months?
Is it just about censorship on instagram after Zuckerberg Musk-olinization?
The open display of oligarchy at the inauguration has a bunch of people suddenly turned off of corporate social media sites in general. It's a meme, basically, but one that could have a positive effect. I'm happier about this than the people flocking to BlueSky.
yay i guess?
Does the server matter at all? Wasn't able to find a straight pixelfed.ca like I did with Lemmy, but it seems like people always end up dunking on the larger servers or defederating them because of Nazis.
I want to use it more but the android app never works. What's the deal? Keeps saying it's trying to connect to an outdated instance of pixelfed.social.
Maybe try a different instance, they're probably getting slammed with more traffic than they can handle.
After an app update, it started working! Yay!
Congrats!
Anyone have success joining pixelfed.art? Still waiting to get approved over a week later.
SPLITTERS!
Still feels empty
Pixelfed does?
The app only allows for local posts and you can't switch to global making it feel smaller than it is.
Are you on a smaller server? The local feeds of the larger ones are crazy right now.
The other apps all support the global feed. The web-ui does too. The Android app is not great right now so I've been using Pixelix. The global feed's pretty useless though, IMO. You kind of get buried in Mastodon people "quoting" with images of text. They really need a Pixelfed-Global feed because it's pretty damn hard to discover people on other Pixelfed servers right now.
Pxlmo.com
Oh yeah, I can see how it could feel slow. 3000 active users vs. 160,000 on pixelfed.social.
Well, hope the global feed situation gets sorted out for you one way or another!
So they really want to compete then? 🧐
"compete" is a strong word. They can see us and we can see them. People are already posting from pixelfed to lemmy so its just pushing both platforms forward.
I wouldnt be into anything like Instagram so it would hardly be interchangeable with something like Lemmy (Reddit) for me. If they get more people turned on to the Fediverse than sweet
Yeah honestly the biggest change between pixelfed and mastodon is the UI. Its a very Instagram like, but simplified (at least at the moment).
Mastodon technically has more "features" but at the end of the day, it all about how people want to interact with their socials.
Hos their onboarding experience? I get the feeling onbording is in the top issues that are said to be why people are less inclined to sign up
Is it like with Mastodon? Do I need a separate account to use Pixelfed well?
Actually I believe you can use Mastodon as the login in this case: https://pixelfed.blog/p/2023/feature/introducing-sign-in-with-mastodon-streamlining-sign-up-and-login-on-pixelfed
They will join us once the long promised groups implementation is finally merged in Pixelfed.
It has definitely been long promised
I wouldn’t say it was competing, it would be like saying Reddit and Instagram competed.
Yes , I was joking
I'm finding the iOS app buggy as heck. It just crashes as soon as I open it. Had to delete it. May try again later.
Pixelfed-eral police
Not surprising since half of lemmy seems to be a support group for inhalant abusers.